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Interesting PDF about Hakka people, the supposed jews of China
04-16-2016, 08:28 PM
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Interesting PDF about Hakka people, the supposed jews of China
The Secret History of the Hakkas:
The Chinese Revolution as a Hakka

Enterprise*
Mary S. Erbaugh
Few China scholars or Chinese citizens know one of the most basic
facts about Deng Xiaoping, Hu Yaobang, Zhu De, Chen Yi, Guo
Moruo or many other modern leaders: they are all Hakka. Most
popular and official histories, in China and abroad, ignore this basic
ethnic bond. The title of this article is used ironically, in deliberate
parody of the genuine Secret History of the Mongols. The subtitle
points toward an ironic but serious effort to illuminate a major facet
of revolutionary history which remains almost entirely unexplored.

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The Hakka are an impoverished and stigmatized subgroup of Han
Chinese whose settlements are scattered from Jiangxi to Sichuan.
Socialist revolution meshed well with the Hakka tradition of militant
dissent, so that their 3 per cent of the mainland population has been
three times more likely than other Han to hold high position. Six of
the nine Soviet guerrilla bases were in Hakka territory, while the route
of the Long March moved from Hakka village to Hakka village




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The importance of Hakka connections. Chinese traditionally avoid
public discussion of sub-ethnic ties. The all-important backgrounds
and personal connections of the leadership remain largely hidden,
even though nominal political position often understates actual clout,
given the underdeveloped legal and legislative systems. Analysts
spend decades tracing the alliances forged by shared province, home
town, alma mater, intermarriage, military service and political
patronage. "Connections charts" made popular posters during the
Cultural Revolution and the 1989 democracy movement. But even
these analyses do not mention ethnicity


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Variable degrees of assimilation. Hakka identity varies. Ethnicity is
classically defined by common race, religion, customs, and language.
But Hakkas are genetically the same as other Han, and share very
similar religion and customs.21
Comparing Hakka identity with
Jewish identity can be illuminating.
In the United States Jews are
scattered by diaspora and tiny in numbers (less than 2 per cent of the
population). Individual Jews vary in assimilation and politics, from
Christian convert Felix Mendelssohn to Zionist Chaim Weitzmann to
feminist Gloria Steinem. Yiddish, which transcended political boundaries,
once provided the very name for European Jewish solidarity,
Yiddish keit. And language is the most important Hakka unifier, even
though many Hakka have long been multilingual. Ye Jianying himself
attended a Cantonese primary school, then spoke Mandarin at the
Yunnan Military Academy.2


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04-16-2016, 08:36 PM
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well that explains my Jewy nose. I'm 3/4 Hakka.
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04-16-2016, 08:58 PM
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it prob explains your somewhat northern appearance.

hakkas were the last pure han northerners before northern barbarian intermixing. they escaped to the south from the north.
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04-17-2016, 03:13 AM
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met another hakka today. you have to ask them to get it out of them. very interesting.

it is sort of like a loosely based secret society within the Han Chinese
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04-17-2016, 03:17 AM
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Hakkas, in fact, see themselves as
more Chinese than other Han, as preservers of ancient northern Han
culture. Thus Hakka associations are called "Associations for those
who revere the true Chinese tradition"
(Chongzheng Hui from
chongbai "revere" and zheng long "the true tradition"). The Yue and
the Min deride the Hakkas as trouble-makers, as poor, stingy, crude
fighters who overwork their women and remain hopelessly clannish.
Hakka historians herald many of the same traits as adaptations to
mobility, conflict and poverty, which yield strong women, military
prowess, a useful common language and an openness to innovation,
traits which they claim underlie both traditional Chinese culture and
continued progress:
Carrying with them the culture of Central China the Hakkas have built a great
mobile army, rich in the pioneer spirit. They have built roads where no roads
went before. They founded homes in the wilderness. They have offered hope
and promise. Thus, they do not have a narrow concept of territory and are not
strongly tied to any one local region. Having a very cosmopolitan outlook, they feel at home anywhere in China.42
The stigmatized traits merit further discussion, for socialist revolution
eventually adapted many of them nation-wide, carefully avoiding
any mention of parallels in Hakka tradition.


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this totally explains why so many southern Chinese look Northern.

Hakka. I meet a lot of cantos with northern features and I'm like wtf, now I know.

HAKKA
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04-17-2016, 03:19 AM
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i don't think they are anywhere as clannish as the white hebrews, but there is some type of kinship when a hakka meets another hakka.

the funny thing is it's not something widely discussed in Chinese society. Most Chinese don't even know Deng Xiaoping was hakka. Hakka occupy many seats of power in China.

Lin Chi Ling, a native SOUTHERN Taiwanese has pure northern looks and very pale skin. Probably Hakka:

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04-17-2016, 03:27 AM
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Lee Kuan Yew - Hakka.. one of the greatest modern leaders

Lee Teng Hui - Modern taiwanese history's greatest subverter, Hakka

Sun Yat Sen - Chinese freemason who overthrew the Dynastic system in China, Hakka
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04-17-2016, 03:28 AM
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Raymond Chow, producer of all the Bruce Lee movies.. HAKKA

Vitasoy company founder, HAKKA

wow. i'm looking at the list. ridiculous list of influential people and power players

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hakka_people
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04-17-2016, 03:37 AM
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(04-16-2016 08:36 PM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  well that explains my Jewy nose. I'm 3/4 Hakka.

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04-03-2019, 08:17 AM
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04-03-2019, 08:41 AM
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Many of the most famous Chinese martial arts are hakka arts. Apparently they have quite a reputation for being fierce fighters. During the Taiping rebellion, it was said that whenever a Hakka army came to close quarters with the enemy, they were invariably victorious.
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04-03-2019, 08:49 AM
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https://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/20...murai.html
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04-03-2019, 09:41 AM
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(04-03-2019 08:41 AM)Pierrot Lunaire Wrote:  Many of the most famous Chinese martial arts are hakka arts. Apparently they have quite a reputation for being fierce fighters. During the Taiping rebellion, it was said that whenever a Hakka army came to close quarters with the enemy, they were invariably victorious.

they are interesting group of people shrouded in mystery

the funny thing is I don't even think it's a conscious secret society

it's more like there is an extra affinity for each other.. but it's not really conscious

I noticed Hakka people tend to like each other's company.. just something I observed when I was in China.

and yes they are famous for their fighting ability.. they were famous for their ROUNDED fortresses called WEI WU... there are no windows on the ground floor and only one entrance:

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04-03-2019, 11:35 AM
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(04-17-2016 03:37 AM)Winnson Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 08:36 PM)The Diet Butcher Wrote:  well that explains my Jewy nose. I'm 3/4 Hakka.

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