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09-23-2013, 04:53 PM (This post was last modified: 09-23-2013 04:54 PM by Hellfire Awaits.)
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Maybe you posted the wrong study by mistake. Im willing to be generous so that you can go back and edit your posts, then prove me wrong retroactively.

Anybody who mentions "testosterone" when discussing differences in muscularity between the races has no idea what he is talking about. The assays commonly used in medicine are notoriously unreliable, and your levels of serum (non-albumin bound) T can fluctuate wildly from day to day. Sheesh. just refraining from jerking off for a week can cause a spike in excess of 20%. Avg racial differences can look trivial by comparison.

Androgen receptors DO pack a heavy punch, however. This is beyond scientific dispute. All the T in the world wont help you unless your body can assimilate it properly.




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09-23-2013, 04:55 PM
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(09-23-2013 04:52 PM)DonJohnson Wrote:  
(09-23-2013 04:43 PM)Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  
(09-23-2013 04:34 PM)DonJohnson Wrote:  
(09-23-2013 04:30 PM)Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  No you didnt read that paper. Fess up. Prob wouldnt understand it even if u did.

How do I know this?

As for me, Im on a tablet using wifi at a client's house, and this is a CT forum. And?




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lol Ya I clearly didn't read it that's why i made a short case study observation of the exerpts i didn't quote.

you are a clown shoe.

btw you still have 0 sources for your initial assertion just as I predicted. you are like the king of misinformation on this site. and that is a feat.

Yeah, in a discussion about differences in male T between diff races, you post a study about T, estrone, and estradiol differences between females in the United States. Derp. Are you thick or what?

Your dishonesty (typical ddae nom behavior) and bluffing might get you ahead in real life. But they wont work here..


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sex doesn't matter to me as much as race in this topic. the study outlines the difference of racial testosterone level. the female and male testosterone levels are parallel between the races. Anyone with common sense can see this.

you can post another source to support your initial assertion though... let's see it. the only one bluffing here is you. LOL @ this clownshoe.


still nothing?

Wrong, wrong, wrong.



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09-23-2013, 05:02 PM (This post was last modified: 09-23-2013 05:08 PM by DonJohnson.)
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STILL NOTHING to support your initial assertion?

Just talking around in cirlces by yourself with more misinformation dreamed up in that demented mind...
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09-23-2013, 05:10 PM
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(09-23-2013 05:02 PM)DonJohnson Wrote:  STILL NOTHING to support your initial assertion?

Just more misinformation dreamed up in that demented mind...



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09-23-2013, 05:11 PM
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Oops that didjt work. Here u go:


http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/95/...l.pdf+html


Forinstance,AsianmeninHongKongandJapan,butnotinthe UnitedStates,hadlevelsoftotaltestosteroneapproximately20%higherthaninothergroups​. Evengreatervariationwaspresentinlevelsofestradiol,SHBG,anddihydrotestosterone.Gr​oup differencesinbodymassindexdidnotexplainmostgeographicaldifferences.Inaddition,bo​dy massindex-independentracialdifferenceswerepresent;Blackmenhadhigherlevelsofestrogens (estradiol,estrone),andAsianmenhadlowerlevelsofglucuronidatedandrogenmetabolites​

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09-23-2013, 05:14 PM
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^ makes sense. IN sociological surveys asian men rank higher on the masculinity scale.. this is in relation to how they relate to females.

white women are more dominating over white males.. in general. not as much with asian males and asian females.
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09-23-2013, 05:15 PM
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(09-23-2013 04:32 PM)CTsar Wrote:  
(09-23-2013 11:48 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  also I think I read before that Low T causes more aggression.. like you get angry at your test levels and go on an impotent rage.

very low T may cause depression and violent behavior. This 17 hs baseball player committed suicide during the roid withdrawal period




yeah. that was what i was getting at. makes sense.. having low T can throw you into a rage.

healthy testosterone levels and u should be more content along with normal sexual function.

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09-23-2013, 05:15 PM
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will read tomorrow.....
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09-23-2013, 05:23 PM
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(09-23-2013 05:14 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  ^ makes sense. IN sociological surveys asian men rank higher on the masculinity scale.. this is in relation to how they relate to females.

white women are more dominating over white males.. in general. not as much with asian males and asian females.

You mean they expect women to be demure, compliant, and feminine

Well all that breaks down in the US for some strange reason. That study does say T levels are lower in asian americans. It's a toss-up.

You know whats funny? You can turn a genetic male into an ordinary female just by tweaking the impact of a single gene. Go google androgen insensitivity syndrome. These women have high T levels but large breasts, hips, and ordinary looking faces.

The message you should take away from all this is that T differences between races play a more minor role in things like violence, aggression, and even muscularity. At least not when compared to other genetic factors. GWAS studies for criminal behavior routinely turn out MAO-A receptor alleles, but even those only account for, say, only 3% of intra-population varianc3.


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09-23-2013, 05:35 PM
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I don't think DJ understands your posts.
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09-23-2013, 05:50 PM
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(09-23-2013 05:23 PM)Hellfire Awaits Wrote:  
(09-23-2013 05:14 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  ^ makes sense. IN sociological surveys asian men rank higher on the masculinity scale.. this is in relation to how they relate to females.

white women are more dominating over white males.. in general. not as much with asian males and asian females.

You mean they expect women to be demure, compliant, and feminine

Well all that breaks down in the US for some strange reason. That study does say T levels are lower in asian americans. It's a toss-up.

You know whats funny? You can turn a genetic male into an ordinary female just by tweaking the impact of a single gene. Go google androgen insensitivity syndrome. These women have high T levels but large breasts, hips, and ordinary looking faces.

The message you should take away from all this is that T differences between races play a more minor role in things like violence, aggression, and even muscularity. At least not when compared to other genetic factors. GWAS studies for criminal behavior routinely turn out MAO-A receptor alleles, but even those only account for, say, only 3% of intra-population varianc3.


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it's interesting.. perhaps the US diet leads to LOW T.. possibly fluoride or other unknown chemicals.. perhaps widespread BPA etc.

i do notice more pep amongst asians in asia.. compared to asians from the US. they always seemed to lack that internal pep.

it's hard to explain but it's something I can feel.

american asians seem kind of groggy and lardated.

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09-25-2013, 08:19 AM
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Sorry, I find the following more interesting than low T. Smile

http://koosjansen.blogspot.nl/2013/09/bu...ncial.html

"Presenting another translation of an article from one of the leaders in the Chinese gold industry. The original version appeared on 1 August 2012 in Qiushi magazine, the main academic journal of the Chinese Communist Party’s Central Committee. Sun Zhaoxue is the president of China National Gold Corporation, China's biggest mining company that produced 160 tons of gold in 2010 and will produce 260 tons in 2015. He is also president of the China Gold Association, that acts as a bridge between the Chinese government and gold producers in protecting business interests and providing information, consultancy, co-ordination and intermediary services for them. In the article he explains that China needs to hoard gold in order to safeguard the country’s economic stability and to strengthen its defense against external risks.

Because Gold possesses stable intrinsic value, it is both the cornerstone of countries’ currency and credit as well as a global strategic reserve. Without exception, world economic powers established and implement gold strategies at the national level. China is the world’s second largest economy, in order to enhance core competitiveness in a shorter period of time, an important aspect is an integrated policy of gold exploration, production, trade, consumption and investment so as to strengthen China’s control of this strategic resource, thereby effectively safeguard the country’s economic and financial security in the process of globalization and strengthen defense against external risks.

First, rediscover the status and role of gold reserves from a strategic height

After the disintegration of the Bretton Woods system in the 1970s, the gold standard which was in use for a century collapsed. Under the influence of the US Dollar hegemony the stabilizing effect of gold was widely questioned, the ‘gold is useless’ discussion began to spread around the globe. Many people thought that gold is no longer the monetary base, that storing gold will only increase the cost of reserves. Therefore, some central banks began to sell gold reserves and gold prices continued to slump. Affected by this point of view, the growth of gold reserves for China, the world's largest gold producer, began to slow.

Indeed, since mankind’s discovery of gold, gold because of its stability and rarity became mankind’s important method of exchanging labor and wealth. Along with the deepening of economic globalization gold stabilized societies and economies, prevented inflation, increased national credit-worthiness and stabilized exchange rates. It possesses a status that is irreplaceable by other capital assets. Especially since the outbreak of the international financial crisis, gold's safe-haven against inflation is increasingly prominent, its strategic position in the reserves of wealth regained world attention and central banks became net buyers of gold.

Currently, there are more and more people recognizing that the ‘gold is useless’ story contains too many lies. Gold now suffers from a ‘smokescreen’ designed by the US, which stores 74% of global official gold reserves, to put down other currencies and maintain the US Dollar hegemony. Going to the source, the rise of the US dollar and British pound, and later the euro currency, from a single country currency to a global or regional currency was supported by their huge gold reserves.

Especially noteworthy is that in the course of this international financial crisis, the US shows a huge financial deficit but it did not sell any of its gold reserves to reduce debt. Instead it turned on the printer, massively increasing the US Dollar supply, making the wealth of those countries and regions with foreign reserves mainly denominated in US Dollar quickly diminish, in effect automatically reducing their own debt. In stark contrast with the sharp depreciation of the US Dollar, international gold price continue to rise breaking $1900 US Dollars per ounce in 2011, gold’s asset-preservation contrasts vividly with the devaluation of credit-based assets. Naturally the more devalued the US Dollar, the more the gold price rises, the more evident the function of US gold reserves as a hedge. Although the international financial crisis was established in the US, the crisis failed to shake the dollar's status as an international currency. US net wealth did not appear to diminish with the same degree of the dollar's decline, an important reason why the US’ 8,133 tons of gold reserves play a role. In the global financial crisis, countries in the world political and economic game, we once again clearly see that gold reserves have an important function for financial stability and are an ‘anchor’ for national economic security.

After 30 years of reform and development, China has become a highly open country, not only moving in tandem with the world economy, but is playing an increasingly important role in the way the setup of the world economy changes. Therefore to win over new changes and challenges in the international post-crisis era, China must not only advance the internationalization of the Chinese RMB supported by a massive economy, but also view gold reserves as an important parameter and achieve a logical ratio between gold reserves and economic output. This requires us to make a forward looking judgment on the scale of gold reserves, build and implement quickly a national gold strategy that is suitable to China’s economic development.

Second, effort to increase domestic resource integration is our main channel to increase gold reserves

Because gold is a natural currency, from assuring national economic development and security, to hastening the advancement of RMB internationalization, increasing gold reserves should become a central pillar in our country’s development strategy. International experience shows that a country requires 10% of foreign reserves in gold to ensure financial stability while achieving high economic growth concurrently. At the moment, the US, France, Italy and other countries’ gold accounts for 70% of forex reserves. Entering the new century, China increased its gold reserves twice in 2001 from 394 tons to 500 tons, and in 2003 to 600 tons. After the international financial crisis erupted, gold reserves were increased to 1054 tons but gold reserves account for less than 1.6% of forex reserves – a wide gap compared to developed countries.

Due to China’s huge forex reserves, it's difficult in the short term to make gold a main channel to accumulate forex reserves like the US and European countries. It's especially true that as global gold prices make new highs, increasing gold reserves also become more difficult. We need to establish a more clear national gold strategy, look at benefits over a long term as a starting point, amply make use of two markets, two resources, continue to grow gold reserves and progressively become a ‘gold-reserve’ nation that is commensurate with the country’s economic strength. Based on current conditions, apart from accumulating gold from international markets at opportune moments, the main channel to implement a national gold strategy is to increases domestic gold integration through increasing gold production, this in order to strengthen the all-round development of China’s economy and financial ‘breakwater’.

In the new century, under the guidance of systematic development, China's gold industry ushered in a period of accelerated development and in one fell swoop got rid of the ‘poor gold country’ hat. From 2007 to 2011, China's gold production took global pole position and established a complete industrial system of gold, effectively supporting the national gold strategy. There are still many shortcomings in our current gold industry, particularly prominent problems include: generally small scale mining, low proven reserves, unconsolidated mining concessions, recovery of mining by-products, development order, environment protection and other aspects of uneven development. Statistics show that there were more than 500 Chinese regions that mine gold in 2011, making up more than 700 gold mines, yielding an average of 0.5 tons per mine. The world’s largest gold producer Barrick Gold Corporation of Canada produced 239.5 tons however.

To address this situation, China is also increasing gold resource integration efforts in recent years. However, due to long-standing lack of development of gold resources on strategic planning, and in recent years an illusion of wealth brought by the gold bull market, a variety of aspects of social capital have been involved in mining. To fundamentally solve these problems, the state will need to elevate gold to an equal strategic resource as oil and energy, from the whole industry chain to develop industry planning and resource strategies.

In addition, because individual investment demand is an important component of China’s gold reserve system, we should encourage individual investment demand for gold. Practice shows that gold possession by citizens is an effective supplement to national reserves and is very important to national financial security. World Gold Council statistics show that Chinese individuals possess less than 5 grams of gold per capita, a significant difference to the global average of more than 20 grams. This shows that there big potential for private ownership.

Third, committed to the promising and rigorous implementation of the national gold strategy

Formed in early 2003, China Gold Group Corporation is both China's largest gold production and sales enterprises, but also the gold industry’s only state owned enterprise.

We should advocate to ‘store gold among the people’ and guide a healthy positive development in this segment. In recent years, the domestic gold industry’s rapid growth provided good conditions for various uses of gold, as well as create space for this business to grow faster. China Gold Group Corporation has to catch the opportunity, while increasing its supply capacity, to push ‘store gold among people’ strategy, actively extend the business value chain, increase gold investment types, encourage and promote individuals’ gold investment and consumption. Foremost, maximize the utilization of nearly 1600 China Gold retailers, increase sales channels, optimize sales network, strengthen branding and achieve to ‘store gold among the people’ and thus ‘store wealth among the people’. This is the objective under our gold strategy.

World economies are shaken and insecure, causes of instability are coming together and uncertainty is growing. The world economy faces new changes, new challenges and new opportunities, therefore we must relook the status and function of gold from a strategic height and create and implement a national gold strategy, to strengthen our country’s ability to counter complex situations. This is the only way for China’s gold industry to adopt a scientific evolution, to push China from across the milestone from a ‘large gold country’ to a ‘strong gold country’.

(Author : China Gold Group Corporation General Manager, President of China Gold Association)
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09-25-2013, 08:24 AM
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09-25-2013, 01:11 PM
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it's true C govt is encouraging its citizenry to buy gold.

Gold Mania in China.

Gold is real money.. although I'm beginning to think its not as scarce as people say it is.
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09-25-2013, 03:41 PM
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Great insights by Huntsman on China:



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