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Liberal and left-leaning news sites, blogs dropping their comments sections
12-21-2015, 09:59 AM
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Liberal and left-leaning news sites, blogs dropping their comments sections
They say it's because the comments are hate filled and bigoted, but the truth is that people just strongly disagree with their agendas and want to voice their opposition to those agendas. So rather than deal with dissenting opinions, these sites choose to just turn off comments, effectively confirming that they are little more than propaganda vehicles. If the use of racial slurs was truly the problem, implementing an automatic censor system for certain terms would serve them better than just disabling comments altogether. But that isn't truly the problem, passionate oppostion to their agendas is. I see people using all manner of disparagement against whites, men, conservatives and Christians on sites like Gawker, yet nary an objection seems to be raised.

Nastiness threatens online reader comments
AFP By Rob Lever
November 7, 2015 12:39 AM


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Washington (AFP) - The Internet was supposed to facilitate better exchange between the public and news media. But vile and hateful comments changed all that.

In the face of rising vitriol -- attacks, bigotry and general nastiness -- news organizations are increasingly throwing in the towel on online comments.

Last month, Vice Media's Motherboard news site turned off reader comments, saying "the scorched earth nature of comments sections just stifles real conversation."

It instead began taking "letters to the editor" to be screened by staff.

Vox Media's online news site The Verge said in July it was "turning off comments for a bit," noting that the tone was "getting a little too aggressive and negative."

Blogging platform Medium this past week allowed its users to hide reader comments, acknowledging that "sometimes you may not want to get in a discussion."

The Chicago Sun-Times, The Daily Beast, news website Re/code, the millennial-focused news site Mic and Popular Science also have shut off comments.

And Vox.com launched last year without them, saying that "flame wars" turned readers off.

Newsrooms are really struggling with this," said Jennifer Stromer-Galley, a professor of information studies at Syracuse University.

"They like the idea of the comments because it brings readers back, it creates a community of people who are dedicated and that's good for advertising," she told AFP.

"But the downside is that when people see lots of vitriol and attack, even if they are not using bad language, it turns people off. The worry is that instead of fostering communication, you lose readers."

Research this year by University of Houston professor Arthur Santana found anonymous comments on online news sites can often bring out the vilest of views, particularly on hot topics such as immigration.

- 'Locusts, vermin' -

"Often the targets of the incivility are marginalized groups, including racial minorities," Santana said in the Newspaper Research Journal.

Santana found readers referred to immigrants as "cockroaches, locusts, scumbags, rats, bums, buzzards, blood-sucking leeches, vermin, slime, dogs, brown invaders, wetbacks," among others.

Santana said that newspapers "have expressed frustration with rampant incivility and ad hominem attacks in their commenting forums," but may also be hurting their own reputations by becoming a place for mud-slinging.

The problem is not limited to US news sites: "flame wars" have forced the shutdown of comments on South Africa's largest online news publisher 24.com and Independent Online has done the same.

Controlling online forums can be especially tricky in countries where news organizations may be held liable for defaming content from readers.

Some news organizations have sought to clamp down on incivility by requiring registration and banning anonymity.

- Facebook as a tool? -

One tool is from Facebook, whose plug-in verifies the identity of those who post comments, requiring people to use their real names.

Some evidence indicates the Facebook platform and other tools have helped the tone.

A 2013 University of Kent study found that by making users "accountable," the Facebook system makes them "less likely to engage in uncivil discussion."

But when The Huffington Post ended anonymous comments and began using the Facebook plug-in, it sparked anger.

By creating obstacles to posting, "you lose a lot of commenters," said David Wolfgang, a doctoral researcher in journalism at the University of Missouri.

Wolfgang, who has been researching the state of online news comments, said many newsrooms were unprepared for the deluge of acrimony but should not give up.

"If your local news organization isn't going to provide a space for this conversation, who will? It doesn't always work out the way we want, but that doesn't mean we should throw it out," he said.

- Tech solutions? -

Large news organization employ teams of moderators, sometimes with help from outside contractors, to weed out inappropriate comments. But that's not feasible for many budget-stretched newsrooms.

Some are looking to technology, to filter out nastiness and highlight constructive conversations from readers. Several private vendors offer software for this.

The Washington Post and New York Times have joined forces on a project funded by the Knight Foundation to create open-source software that can be adapted for news websites to get a better handle on online discussions.

Greg Barber, director of digital news projects at the Post and a member of the "Coral Project" team working with the Mozilla Foundation, said the competing dailies realized that "we had the same problems and it made sense for us to work together."

Civility is a challenge for everyone," Barber said, adding that the Post gets some eight million comments a year and struggles to keep a positive tone with its own moderators and an outside contractor.

"When users come in and see a pie fight, they are likely to pick up a pie and throw it," he said.

"If they see a reasoned discussion, they will want to contribute in a reasoned way."

Project members have spoken with publishers in 25 countries interested in trying the software, which will be offered free.

News sites may use their own criteria to keep the dialogue on course, according to Barber.

Barber said the software, set to be released for testing in January, aims not only to filter out the ugliness but to identify the "trusted" readers and display constructive comments more prominently.

"It's not just to scrape the mud off our boots, but to find and highlight the valuable contributions," he said.

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12-21-2015, 10:03 AM
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RE: Liberal and left-leaning news sites, blogs dropping their comments sections
they've been doing this for awhile

the comment sections are mostly gone for most of the establishment sites

comments section sway reader's opinions MORE THAN the article itself

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12-21-2015, 04:54 PM (This post was last modified: 12-21-2015 04:55 PM by Winnson.)
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RE: Liberal and left-leaning news sites, blogs dropping their comments sections
Check out any BS MSM YouTube video. Dislikes are through the roof and comments are disabled.

If you don't swallow the shit they are stuffing down your throat, they shut you off.

I think that's great. People are waking up.

come for the calo, stay for the yoshida brotha
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12-21-2015, 08:57 PM
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RE: Liberal and left-leaning news sites, blogs dropping their comments sections
Forget comments. They won't really be happy until they disable our higher brain functions altogether...

“Reality denied comes back to haunt.”
― Philip K. Dick, Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said
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12-21-2015, 09:04 PM
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RE: Liberal and left-leaning news sites, blogs dropping their comments sections
They want to do this with the secret ballot voting. They don't like people's real feelings to be known so they want it all in the open for "shaming".

Everyone is bigoted, prejudiced, and racist. It's nature and it's OK. But just keep it to yourself.

My local newspaper online system recently changed to a new posting forum so it's no longer anonymous.

--I Eat Grits--
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12-22-2015, 08:47 AM
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RE: Liberal and left-leaning news sites, blogs dropping their comments sections
these people can't control the narrative anymore, so they are now censoring

they aren't the vanguard. they are the evil establishment

CTers, reality researchers, media critics are the new world vanguard. that is why we are feeling the heat and we could lose our jobs due to our views even without preaching violence or threatening others
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