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11-12-2015, 11:58 AM
Post: #46
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
(11-12-2015 09:37 AM)Billygoat Wrote:  I have read that the earth is so large that if you were able to visualize it relative-wise the lowest valleys and highest mountains would still be smooth as a bowling ball because it's huge. It's that big.

We use plumb bobs and levels to make square buildings. The largest bridges are said to have uprights out of parallel because of the curvature of the earth.
I did a report about the Humber Estuary bridge once and this was a fun fact.


So the video that says engineers or architects don't take that into account are lying or misinformed.

Can you explain this more?

The vid argues that large bridges etc don't account for curvature, not sure if this is what you're talkin about

thx

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11-12-2015, 12:38 PM
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11-12-2015, 12:52 PM
Post: #48
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
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I wouldn't expect many of you to be swayed by this argument. But if you DO proclaim to be a Bible believer, well, than you're a flat earther...lol
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11-12-2015, 01:02 PM
Post: #49
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
Question
How can one prove that the world is round?
Asked by: Brenden Brewer

Answer
Earth from spaceNow that we have access to space, the easiest way to prove the Earth is spherical is to leave it and view it from a distance. Astronauts and space probes have done just that. Every picture of Earth ever taken shows only a circular shape, and the only geometric solid which looks like a circle from any direction is a sphere.

One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.
Answered by: Paul Walorski, B.A., Part-time Physics/Astronomy Instructor
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11-12-2015, 01:06 PM
Post: #50
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
Quote:Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

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11-12-2015, 01:07 PM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2015 01:08 PM by canuckster.)
Post: #51
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
(11-12-2015 01:02 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  Question
How can one prove that the world is round?
Asked by: Brenden Brewer

Answer
Earth from spaceNow that we have access to space, the easiest way to prove the Earth is spherical is to leave it and view it from a distance. Astronauts and space probes have done just that. Every picture of Earth ever taken shows only a circular shape, and the only geometric solid which looks like a circle from any direction is a sphere.

One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.
Answered by: Paul Walorski, B.A., Part-time Physics/Astronomy Instructor





what if its flat to flat though

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11-12-2015, 02:04 PM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2015 02:05 PM by Billygoat.)
Post: #52
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
(11-12-2015 11:58 AM)Masato Toys Wrote:  
(11-12-2015 09:37 AM)Billygoat Wrote:  The largest bridges are said to have uprights out of parallel because of the curvature of the earth.
I did a report about the Humber Estuary bridge once and this was a fun fact.

Can you explain this more?

The vid argues that large bridges etc don't account for curvature, not sure if this is what you're talkin about

thx

From Wikipedia :

"The towers, although both vertical, are 34 mm (1.3 inches) farther apart at the top than the bottom due to the curvature of the earth"


So, they are perfectly plumb in reference to Earth but they are not parallel.


Also from Wikipedia:

"The idea of a planar or flat surface for Earth, however, is still sufficient for surveys of small areas, as the local topography is far more significant than the curvature. Plane-table surveys are made for relatively small areas, and no account is taken of the curvature of the Earth. A survey of a city would likely be computed as though the Earth were a plane surface the size of the city. For such small areas, exact positions can be determined relative to each other without considering the size and shape of the entire Earth."

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11-12-2015, 02:46 PM
Post: #53
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
people always knew the earth was round.. the flat earth columbus crap was made up to discredit the church.

the flat earth shit is BS although it is interesting to hear the arguments
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11-12-2015, 02:53 PM
Post: #54
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
If you want proof that the world is pretty much round put a C band dish up your yard and point it at the NOAA bird "GOES EAST" or "GOES WEST" or "GOES SOUTH" the data is free ! But you would need some not so free software to decode it.
These three systems combine scans at regular intervals and produce a composite mosaic of the W. Hemisphere.
Here is the interesting thing if a scan on fails or there is some sort of com problem the mosaic is not created but a crappy picture from one used, If it's the EAST bird the West Coast looks crappy like it's tailing off over as if the bird didnt see it, why ? Because of the curvature of the Earth and oh yeah its a big spherical blob to !
Just the act o launching these things into orbit wouldn't be possible unless the Earth was a spinning globe, or maybe there is an entire discipline of occulted mathematics, aerospace navigation, just an army people engineering behind the scenes while all the people who think they design and launch space craft are just pawns in a very big game. Come to think of it the entire commericial air line industry is in on it to. Those planes navigate, well the software that does it, takes the curvature of the Earth into account.
I have a friend who has worked on some of that code , he writes in fortran and pascal and all the nav systems use those old languages.
This is just an awful CT!
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11-12-2015, 03:15 PM
Post: #55
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
(11-12-2015 12:38 PM)Fugazi Wrote:  


Wo... This navy missile instructor has just high school education. He doesn't have a grasp on radar (radio waves) vs light wave frequency/amplitude/energy.

You gotta be careful when looking at sources for this type of thing. This, Sandy Hook, 9/11, etc. The interviewers evidently have no Vulcan ancestry. ha. The right out of high school educated navy dude simply knows how to use his missile system but little about the science behind them. He needs to know that in order to draw logical conclusions based on his in-field observations. He's way out of his league here.

He bases his discounting of the spherical earth on his narrow 2 degree pencil beam radar transmitters being able to target ships beyond visual range to the horizon. He says his... what he calls "line of sight" 2 degree pencil beam semi-active Sea Sparrow missile radar targeting systems could target and hit ships at 40-60 miles well beyond the visible horizon blew his mind.

First these systems are short range. They do not rely on bouncing radar waves of the the ionosphere or anything like larger sale longer range military radar. This guy's kind of equating his 2 degree pencil beam radar with a pin point laser targeting system inferring at maximum targeting distance the beam would still be a small point like the laser. This is nuts.

At the visible horizon from the deck height of a big warship, the beam width from a radar transmitter transmitting a narrow 2 degree beam at radar wave frequencies would be 5?, 10?, 20?, ??? stories high. This greatly lengthens the distance the narrow beam radar can see the ship. It effectively makes the targeted ship many times it's height to be seen and acquired by the missile systems radar. I mean this is an elementary school math exercise.

Now, get me an interview with someone that's an expert in conventional physics and radar who's gone rogue and then we're talkin'.
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11-12-2015, 03:26 PM
Post: #56
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
(11-12-2015 01:02 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote:  Question
How can one prove that the world is round?
Asked by: Brenden Brewer

Answer
One of the oldest proofs of the Earth's shape, however, can be seen from the ground and occurs during every lunar eclipse. The geometry of a lunar eclipse has been known since ancient Greece. When a full Moon occurs in the plane of Earth's orbit, the Moon slowly moves through Earth's shadow. Every time that shadow is seen, its edge is round. Once again, the only solid that always projects a round shadow is a sphere.
Answered by: Paul Walorski, B.A., Part-time Physics/Astronomy Instructor

Yes, I agree assuming the moon is a real moon put there in orbit by celestial forces not spinning like every other spherical heavenly object in what we have been told is our physical universe.
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11-12-2015, 04:00 PM
Post: #57
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
Couldn't this be verified by measuring sea level on a large body of water?
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11-12-2015, 04:30 PM
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11-12-2015, 04:36 PM
Post: #59
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball
you're actually an inch taller in the morning due to decompression

at night you're your shorter due to gravity compressing your spine

very simple. flat earth is absolutely ridiculous
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11-12-2015, 10:58 PM
Post: #60
RE: 200 Proofs The Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball



I'm just trying to figure this shit out like you are.
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