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03-27-2018, 07:05 PM
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Quote:Psalm 19:1 King James Version (KJV)

19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.


Quote:The firmament is described in Genesis 1:6–8 in the Genesis creation narrative:

Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.[3]
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03-30-2019, 06:17 PM
Post: #527
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very good real world demonstration



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03-31-2019, 02:16 AM
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" Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.[3]"

I have read enough Bible translations to know that "firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." is just the best that the translators could do.

Imagine you have technical language, describing something, and then the person translating it doesn't understand what you are describing. What would happen? Well, something like the above.

In the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

Translated: In the midst of space, and let the atmosphere divide the troposphere (lower atmosphere) from the ether (outer space).

So firmament would basically just be a word for the atmosphere as a whole.
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03-31-2019, 07:31 AM
Post: #529
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^ yep.

flat earthers are idiots.

I noticed their momentum has waned
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03-31-2019, 07:44 AM
Post: #530
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this logan paul guy is annoying



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03-31-2019, 07:51 AM
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"Lemurs are native to South Africa"

Was he joking about this? That is the problem with idiots. They can always say "It was just a prank, brah!"
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03-31-2019, 01:15 PM
Post: #532
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(03-31-2019 07:51 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote:  "Lemurs are native to South Africa"

Was he joking about this? That is the problem with idiots. They can always say "It was just a prank, brah!"
Fuck Madagascar. Let's move the Jews to South Africa. That would be splendid.

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03-31-2019, 01:17 PM
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^^that was a joke btw the way. Before I get labeled an antisemite. I respect the 100 trillion Jewish martyrs.

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04-06-2019, 02:41 AM
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OUCH:



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04-10-2019, 12:10 PM
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I'm beginning to think that the Flat Earth PSYOP was fomented to make the conspiracy movement more inclusive to brown Muslim third-worlders who are newly emigrated to the West.

I'm seeing it everywhere on various social medias. The dumbest conspiracies that people can latch onto are usually but not always spouted recent foriegn migrants on social-media.

IIRC many fundamentalist chistrians and muslims believe the earth is flat, with a literal firmament enclosure. Instead of the seas above being euphemisms for the actual troposphere and magnetosphere, they are very rigid literal in their views of the cosmos, which isn't relevant from a modern perspective.

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04-10-2019, 12:40 PM
Post: #536
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contrary to popular nwo opinion

the catholic church never believed in flat earth
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04-11-2019, 02:27 AM
Post: #537
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(04-10-2019 12:10 PM)jho Wrote:  I'm beginning to think that the Flat Earth PSYOP was fomented to make the conspiracy movement more inclusive to brown Muslim third-worlders who are newly emigrated to the West.

I'm seeing it everywhere on various social medias. The dumbest conspiracies that people can latch onto are usually but not always spouted recent foriegn migrants on social-media.

IIRC many fundamentalist chistrians and muslims believe the earth is flat, with a literal firmament enclosure. Instead of the seas above being euphemisms for the actual troposphere and magnetosphere, they are very rigid literal in their views of the cosmos, which isn't relevant from a modern perspective.

Flat Earth ticks all the right 'emotional' boxes, for a conspiracy theory.

Few 'know' the truth (although it is 1000x more popular now than 20 years ago).

Everyone calls you crazy (or rather, stupid).

It is evidence of a wide-ranging conspiracy, the purpose of which is unclear/debatable.

You want to stump a flat earther? Ask them why we are lied to, about flat earth. (the most popular answer seems to be along the lines of "They are hiding God", then you tell them "Why aren't you going around telling people God is real, then?")
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12-29-2019, 08:26 PM
Post: #538
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Youtube pushed this video heavily a couple of days ago, it just showed up as a random video recommendation on the feeds of millions of youtube members at much the same time.

A guy puts a Go Pro on a weather balloon and gets better low space footage than NASA has ever given us. It's a good video.

The video is supposed to shut the Flat Earthers up once and for all, but they are saying that the camera has a fish eye lens, which can be seen when it's on the ground at the beginning.

And so, the debate continues in the youtube comments section.





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12-30-2019, 02:34 AM
Post: #539
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(01-01-1975 08:38 AM)Redneck Wrote:  The video is supposed to shut the Flat Earthers up once and for all(...)
You wouldn't use a fisheye lens to shutdown flat earthers. I doubt that was the intention of the video or its creators.

You use a fisheye, despite the distortion, to get a wide-angle image.

Someone wanted to see as much as they could of the horizon and didn't care about camera distortion, they just wanted to make a cool video. Flat earthers were probably the last thing on their mind.

IIRC, someone sent a Canon camera with very little lens distortion attached to a balloon into the stratosphere, it showed noticeable curvature at 100-150,000 feet.

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12-30-2019, 04:30 AM (This post was last modified: 12-30-2019 04:30 AM by Chaos Reigns.)
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The ole fisheye lens story.

"Show us a picture of curvature!"

*shows pic of curvature

"Yeah, but I mean, not THAT much curvature!"

Sorry flat earthers, even the lens of the HUMAN EYE is NOT FLAT. I.E. it is curved! They only believe their eyes, except when their eyes show them something they don't believe, in which case they don't believe their lying eyes.

I mean, instead of talking about fisheye lens, shouldn't they be trying to find the ice wall, or... The firmament??

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