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cath·o·lic [kath-uh-lik, kath-lik]


1.broad or wide-ranging in tastes, interests, or the like; having sympathies with all; broad-minded; liberal.
2.
universal in extent; involving all; of interest to all.
3.
pertaining to the whole Christian body or church.
example: Tyrone has catholic tastes in music.

meaning.. he has diverse and wide ranging tastes

I used to hear this occasionally used IRL, but not anymore.
The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal"[1][2]) comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou), meaning "on the whole", "according to the whole" or "in general", and is a combination of the Greek words κατά meaning "about" and όλος meaning "whole".
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UNIVERSAL AND LOCAL AT THE SAME TIME. ALL INCLUSIVE

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It's rival, Socialist NWO Architecture

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Correct, this is why Aleister Crowley's Gnostic Religion uses the word Catholic to describe themself.


Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica

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This is the Alter for this religion, note the blatent Masonic influence.


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The Roman Catholic Church literally predates Christianity.
The Universal Civil Religion of Rome was led also led by a Pope a, long before the idea of Peter being the rock or apostolic succession meant anything
^ source on that?

THANKS!
Yeah crowley preached Gnostic Universality. that is pretty diff. from Catholic Christianity.

If your goal in life is controlling others and personal wealth.. I would totally look into the occult. pretty sure it's more effective than self help seminars.
(04-04-2013 09:52 AM)Hiptosser Wrote: [ -> ]The Roman Catholic Church literally predates Christianity.
The Universal Civil Religion of Rome was led also led by a Pope a, long before the idea of Peter being the rock or apostolic succession meant anything

That doesn't really have to be sourced very deeply.
It is part of the historical record that upwardly mobile Roman politicos sought various offices on the way to Consular-ship. Tribune and Pontif were two of them. Any book that deals with Julius Caesars rise to power will outline the crisis he faced as Pontif over a scandal involving a young Optimate troublemaker (who later was legal turned into a pleb and became Tribune of the Plebs) sneaking into a religous ceremony being conducted by Caesar's wife at the time in an effort to get laid. It could have been a major set back for him but Caesar was Caesar and came out on top.
You are talking abut literal meanings. If you need a source to prove to you that Roman Universal Church=RCC and that there was a Roman Universal Church in existence before Xtianity was adopted (an administrative stroke of genius) and the modern church's political structure came from it's older pagan incarnations you need more than a source. You need to spend some time in a university library and do a lot of reading.
^ I do know that much of the RCC has roots in Paganism, however they cannot be grouped with the masonic occultists.

I am interested in a source for this so I can verify and read up more on this. I am not saying I don't believe you but there must be some scholarly works on this.
The key diff. between the Church and the masonic cults is their stance on dualism.

the latter are based on manichean dualism.. hence the black and white tiles.. while the Roman Church is based on a more unified non-dual system.

The Catholic Church is very very unique. I also think they hijacked pagan symbols and reinterpreted them.
(04-04-2013 07:18 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah crowley preached Gnostic Universality. that is pretty diff. from Catholic Christianity.

If your goal in life is controlling others and personal wealth.. I would totally look into the occult. pretty sure it's more effective than self help seminars.

I think the term Catholica was used by him to show that the word is not owned by the Vatican, and that it does pertain to a far wider reaching description than the one that applies to the Church.

I wouldn't say that description 2 listed below would necessarily apply to the Church, but it could apply to an occult religion.


cath•o•lic (ˈkæθ ə lɪk, ˈkæθ lɪk)

adj.
1. universal in extent; encompassing all; wide-ranging: catholic tastes and interests.
2. having broad sympathies; broad-minded; liberal.
3. pertaining to the whole Christian body or church.
[1300–1350; Middle English < Latin catholicus < Greek katholikós general <kathól(ou) universally, contraction of katà hólou according to the whole]
ca•thol•i•cal•ly (kəˈθɒl ɪk li) adv.
Cath•o•lic (ˈkæθ ə lɪk, ˈkæθ lɪk)

adj.
1. of or pertaining to the Roman Catholic Church.
2. of or pertaining to all the modern churches, as the Anglican and the Greek Orthodox, that have kept the apostolic succession of bishops.
3. of or pertaining to the Christian Church that was formerly undivided.
n.
4. a member of a Catholic church, esp. of the Roman Catholic Church.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/catholic
Quote:2. having broad sympathies; broad-minded; liberal.

in the modern view I think you are right.. the OTO are closer to modern liberals.

However I consider the RCC very liberal as well, but more of a classic liberalism, being open to all ideas/criticism etc.
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