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The Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary is a belief in the Roman Catholic Church that a specific act of consecration on the part of the Pope has been required by the Virgin Mary in return for which there would be world peace.
The Consecration of Russia is inherently related to the Marian apparitions reported at Our Lady of Fátima and Pontevedra, Portugal during which Portuguese children stated that the Virgin Mary appeared to them and delivered specific messages. The reported messages included a number of secrets that were gradually revealed by the Holy See. The messages emphasize the praying of the Rosary, wearing of the Brown Scapular, and made a number of prophecies and promises, one of which was that through the Consecration of Russia peace would be achieved. It is foretold and promised by Mary that her Immaculate Heart will triumph in the end which will set forth the promised era of peace for mankind.
even if you strip the superstition.. things are lining up.

Russia is increasingly Christian. Russia is anti-NWO

an alliance between Orthodox Christian Russia and the Vatican would forge an anti-NWO alliance between Eastern/Western Europe

When this happens.. I do believe the world will be more peaceful.

Say what you want about Russia, they aren't going around attacking people all over the world. they do not have 900 bases in 130 countries.
some people will claim that russia has already been consecrated but that is not true.

Russia was not specifically mentioned in these consecrations but rather "the whole world"
Quote:Sister Lucy died about 1960. The women who talked to Antipope John Paul II the Great Deceiver was a replacement put in to gie legitimacy to the heretical usurpers.

there were 2 lady of fatimas...

the 2nd one is the imposter

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Chronology of Four Cover-up Campaigns:

Silencing of Sister Lucia

Visions and Secrets

Though she was only 10 years old at the time, Lucia dos Santos was the eldest of the three shepherd children who saw the visions at Fatima in 1917. She was the only one of the three who actually spoke to the Virgin, asking her own questions and answering others from Our Lady. After the vision of May 13, Lucia and her younger cousins, Francisco and Jacinta Marto, agreed not to reveal it to anyone.

Unwanted Attention

Seven-year-old Jacinta, however, was unable to contain her excitement about this first vision, and mentioned it to her mother. Word soon spread through their small rural community. Some immediately accepted the vision as an authentic apparition of the Virgin Mary, but others — including Church officials — were skeptical. Crowds of both believers and curiosity-seekers gathered to watch Lucia and her cousins at the later apparitions (about 50 people came in June; 5,000 in July; 15,000 in August; and 30,000 in September), and at the final one, some 70,000 people witnessed the famous Miracle of the Sun.

Intensive Investigation

By July, the local mayor found the popular reaction to these events disturbing, and subjected all three children to intensive questioning in August. At one point, after being held in prison for 2 days, they were actually threatened with death by that exasperated interrogator. Despite all attempts at intimidation, Lucia and her cousins revealed nothing of the July 13 Secret, abiding by Our Lady’s instruction to keep Her Message secret. Vatican officials were initially dubious about the authenticity of the visions, as they must be in cases of this kind. However, the evident sincerity of the children, as well as their deep piety and devotion, eventually persuaded the authorities to take the issue seriously and investigate further. The authenticating Miracle of the Sun, which Lucia requested from Our Lady as proof that the apparitions were authentic, sealed the matter. A little more than a decade later, in 1930, their exhaustive investigation was complete, and Church officials declared the Fatima apparitions "worthy of belief."
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Quote:Stanley L. Jaki, a professor of physics at Seton Hall University in New Jersey, a Benedictine priest, and the author of a number of books dealing with the intersection of science and faith, proposed a unique theory about the supposed miracle.[27] Jaki believed that the event was natural and meteorological in nature, but that the fact the event occurred at the exact time predicted was a miracle.

key point. they said when it was going to happen and 10s of thousands watched and saw unusual solar activity.
Two of the Three Seers Die

Barely two years after he saw the first Fatima apparition, Francisco Marto died of influenza in the spring of 1919. The following year, his younger sister Jacinta also succumbed to this disease in February 1920. Lucia dos Santos thus became the only surviving Fatima seer, and the message of Our Lady rested only with her. When she entered a convent at the age of 18 in 1925, she had still not publicly revealed anything further about Our Lady’s message. (Both the Marto children were beatified by Pope John Paul II on May 13, 2000, and are now only one step away from canonization.)

Consecration Requested

In the summer of 1929, while residing in a convent in Tuy, Spain, Sr. Lucia had another vision. This time, Our Lady returned as She had promised at Fatima to ask for the consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart. This apparition was followed by a visit two years later, in which Our Lord spoke to and warned Sr. Lucia about the deadly consequences to the Church hierarchy for failing to perform the requested consecration. Sr. Lucia reported these mesages to her confessor, Fr. Bernardo Goncalves, urging him to find some way to persuade the Holy Father to perform the ceremony. Despite the fact that her earlier visions had now been declared "worthy of belief" by the Vatican, no action was taken to comply with Our Lady’s request. By 1935, Sr. Lucia had begun putting her urgings in writing, telling Fr. Goncalves, in reference to his questions, in a handwritten letter that "it would please Our Lord very much" if he insisted to his bishop that the consecration be done.

The Words of Our Lady

By 1941, at the insistence of her bishop, Sister Lucia wrote her third and fourth memoirs revealing the first two parts of the contents of the Secret delivered on July 13, 1917 by Our Lady of Fatima in Her own words. Only the last part of the Secret, the so-called "Third Secret," remained undisclosed. A few years later, again at the instigation of her bishop, Sr. Lucia reluctantly wrote the content of the Third Secret on a sheet of paper, sealed it in an envelope, and had it conveyed to Bishop José da Silva of Fatima. By agreement between Sr. Lucia and the bishop, the letter was to be made public at the latest in 1960. Before that date, in 1957, the still-sealed envelope was transferred to the Vatican, where it was deposited in a safe in the papal apartments.

Unsatisfactory Consecrations

Meanwhile, Sr. Lucia kept urging that the requested consecration be done exactly as specified. In 1946, she explained in an interview that the general consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart performed by Pope Pius XII in 1942 was not satisfactory, because it was not the specific consecration of Russia and all the Catholic bishops did not join the Pope. In 1952, the Pope did mention Russia in another consecration, but failed to perform the ceremony in union with all the bishops of the world. Evidently, Pius XII had not been informed of this requirement, which is explicitly stated in Sr. Lucia’s memoirs.
Viet Nam was concentrated in the mid 60's it led to pogroms against Buddhists
^ well. I am going to look into that.

I think you should check out my state dept. vatican thread.

they try to do good work in general IMO.
In the third of Her six apparitions at Fatima, on July 13, 1917, the Blessed Virgin told the three shepherd children that She would return later to ask for the consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart. Our Lady emphasized the importance of this request, which was accompanied by a dire warning:

If My requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church.

The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated. In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to Me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world."
A Consecration — But Not As Requested

In October of 1942, with World War II at its height, Pope Pius XII performed a consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. He made no mention of Russia, nor did any of the world’s bishops participate in the ceremony. The following spring, as the war continued, Our Lord told Sr. Lucia that world peace would not result from the Pope’s consecration, but the war would be shortened.

Request Unsatisfied: Sr. Lucia

On July 15, 1946, Sr. Lucia answered some questions from Professor William T. Walsh of New York, regarding the consecration. He is author of the most popular book on Fatima. She pointed out that Our Lady did not ask for the consecration of the world, but specifically and only Russia. The Pope’s consecration in 1942 therefore failed to satisfy Our Lady’s request.
The Pope Makes an Admission

The day after this article appeared, Pope John Paul II visited Fatima, where he again consecrated the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. A few days later, in an article in L’Osservatore Romano, the Pope explained why he had failed to mention Russia specifically, saying he had "tried to do everything possible in the concrete circumstances." This was widely interpreted to mean that he could not violate the terms of the Vatican’s continuing policy of appeasing Russia.

On October 13, 2013, Pope Francis consecrates the world to the Immaculate Heart.
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