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What do you fuckers know about it
set offs, taking control of your starwman, contracts of adhesion, hacking the monetary system , admiralty law, contracts, bonds

I have heard one group of people saying all of that is possible and another group saying none of it is and anarchist arguments are the way to actually get anywhere.
I dunno, Jordan Maxwell has been going on about this for decades, everyone else that i've heard talk on the subject seems to be just repeating what he said.

Based on Maxwell's version, it sounds like bullshit.
(03-06-2013 01:01 PM)Redneck Wrote: [ -> ]I dunno, Jordan Maxwell has been going on about this for decades, everyone else that i've heard talk on the subject seems to be just repeating what he said.

Based on Maxwell's version, it sounds like bullshit.

agreed.

It's definitely bullshit.

we're talking about the guy who says the word NEWS comes from north south east west. !!!
the problem with these people is that they assume there is rule of law and that it exists.

even the most basic laws like enforcing a country's borders or kicking out illegal invaders/aliens is not enforced.

even if this stuff is correct, I have no confidence it would work, because I don't see rule of law being followed.
(03-06-2013 01:26 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote: [ -> ]the problem with these people is that they assume there is rule of law and that it exists.

even the most basic laws like enforcing a country's borders or kicking out illegal invaders/aliens is not enforced.

even if this stuff is correct, I have no confidence it would work, because I don't see rule of law being followed.

One of things to consider is what body is obliged to enforce what laws.
From the 'sovereignty-commerce law hacker' perspective things like immigration law are meaningless -the Republic has no mechanism to enforce them and the Corporate US has an entirely different set of priorities.

I'm not saying I agree with everything these guys are saying but there is some interesting shit. A lot what they talk about is provable and a lot of it seems to crazy to believe.
yes, but I believe I have seen some people try this shit before and they got tazed LOL.

there's also this idea that you can turn into a "REAL US CITIZEN" by giving up your citizenship and then reapplying for a true US citizenship.

I heard jordan talk about this before.

the same jordan that says Jesus Christ means "sex oil"
Jordan Logic.. North East West South = NEWS!

the origin of the word NEWS.
one thing I do believe is that the income tax is unconstitutional.

Quote:Ron Paul supports the elimination of the income tax and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). He asserts that Congress had no power to impose a direct income tax and has introduced legislation to repeal of the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, which was ratified on February 3, 1913.

An income tax is the most degrading and totalitarian of all possible taxes. Its implementation wrongly suggests that the government owns the lives and labor of the citizens it is supposed to represent. Tellingly, “a heavy progressive or graduated income tax” is Plank #2 of the Communist Manifesto, which was written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels and first published in 1848.

the socialist party never gave up with their income tax scheme.
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