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Prime minister Kevin Rudd’s plan to resettle asylum seekers in Papua New Guinea is already being compared to John Howard’s hard line on the Tampa, which won Howard the election in 2001. It might be good politics in an election year, but it is unlikely to be good policy in the longer term.
The majority of asylum seekers picked up by the Tampa and shipped to Nauru were later granted refugee status and resettled in Australia or New Zealand. So what can asylum seekers shipped to and processed and eventually resettled in PNG expect?
The Australian media gives us little information on our closest neighbour, except to report sensationalist stories of cannibals – such as former Today Tonight host Naomi Robson’s attempt to rescue six year-old Wawa from being eaten by his own tribe – and corruption.

Kevin Rudd’s asylum seeker policy will resettle refugees in PNG. So what will their life actually be like? AAP/George Curry
Recently, PNG has seen a spate of horrendous attacks on women accused of being “witches” that have captured the Australian media’s attention. PNG is also variously described as a “failed” or “fragile” state and tourists are warned to exercise a“high degree of caution” because of the staggeringly high rate of serious crime, including sexual assault, perpetrated against locals and foreigners alike.
And into such a fraught and fragile environment, Australia is now poised to send the world’s most fragile people – refugees.
Those trying to settle into a new life in PNG will probably come from Sri Lanka, Iran or another Middle Eastern country. Some will be Muslim: PNG, like Australia, is a predominately Christian country. Most won’t speak English as their first language, nor will they speak one of the more than 800 local languages spoken in PNG. They will need to find somewhere to live, get a job and send their kids to school.
So where, exactly, will they be resettled? Almost all land in PNG (up to 97%) is owned by family or kinship groups – known as clans or tribes – not by the government. There is a saying in PNG – “land is life” – and, like Indigenous Australians, there is a strong spiritual and cultural connection to land. There is also a strong practical connection to land – the majority of Papua New Guineans are subsistence farmers and depend on land for their food and shelter.

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I wonder how the Pashtuns and the hills tribes men will get along?
What a mess. This is what creating instability abroad (conflict, economic exploitation) leads to.
Yep and poverty stricken locals are currently being moved out of their slums so the Aussie government can build housing for the refugees.

Shouldnt we be looking after those in our region first? those who's ancestors gave their lives protecting our soldiers from the Japanese?

Look up fuzzy wuzzy angels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_Wuzzy_Angels

Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels

The Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels was the name given by Australian troops to a group of Papua New Guinean people who, during World War II, assisted and escorted injured Australian troops down the Kokoda trail. "Fuzzy Wuzzy" was originally used by British soldiers in the 19th century as a name for Hadendoa warriors on the Red Sea coast of the Sudan, and referred to their elaborate butter-matted hairstyles. The Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels were named for both their frizzy hair and helpful role.

In the year 1942, during the Pacific invasion, the Japanese had built up a force of 13,500 in the Gona region of Papua with the intention of invading Port Moresby. The key to the offensive was an overland track across the Owen Stanley Ranges. The track ranged from the small village of Buna on the north coast of Papua and went up the slopes through Gorari and Oivi to Kokoda. The track was approximately 100 miles (160 km) long, folded into a series of ridges, rising higher and to 7,000 feet (2,100 m) and then declining again to 3,000 feet (910 m). It was covered in thick jungle, short trees and tall trees tangled with vines.

On 29 August 1942, the Japanese task force broke through the Australian line forcing the Australians to retreat further back to Templeton's Crossing. Eventually, the Australians were forced to retreat to Myola.

4000 Australian lives were lost in the campaign. It is speculated that this number would have been much larger had it not been for the help of the Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels.[1] As one Australian digger has noted:

Quote:“They carried stretchers over seemingly impassable barriers, with the patient reasonably comfortable. The care they give to the patient is magnificent. If night finds the stretcher still on the track, they will find a level spot and build a shelter over the patient. They will make him as comfortable as possible fetch him water and feed him if food is available, regardless of their own needs. They sleep four each side of the stretcher and if the patient moves or requires any attention during the night, this is given instantly. These were the deeds of the ‘Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels’ – for us!”

No known injured soldier that was still alive was ever abandoned by the Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels, even during heavy combat. As of Anzac Day 2007, only three of the Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels were still alive. In July 2007, grandsons of Australian World War II soldiers and grandsons of the Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels took part in the "Kokoda Challenge".[2]
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In June 2008, Australian senator Guy Barnett called for his country's Parliament to give official recognition to Papua New Guineans' courage and contributions to the war effort.
"I was stunned to learn that Australia has not officially recognised these wonderful PNG nationals who saved the lives of Australian servicemen. They carried stretchers, stores and sometimes wounded diggers directly on their shoulders over some of the toughest terrain in the world. Without them I think the Kokoda campaign would have been far more difficult than it was."[3]

The government agreed to consider the motion. Recognition may entail a medal, a small ex gratia payment, and additional Australian aid to improve people's education and health in villages near the Kokoda track.[3]

Claims of execution and torture by Australian Army

According to Australian government records and PNG citizens who survived World War II, the Australian Army occasionally coerced and intimidated the local people into compliance.
A video report by the Australian Broadcasting Commission's Foreign Correspondent TV programme entitled "PNG Digger Hangings" [4] claims execution and torture were used to control villages unsupportive of the Australian Army. The report claims the Army deceived the Australian Government inquiry that followed the executions, grossly understating the number of executions carried out by the Australian Army.


Backed by experts, such as Professor Hank Nelson (an eminent historian on the Second World War in PNG), reporter Trevor Bormann stated: "When [Australia's] Federal Cabinet was told of the hangings, it put a stop to them and directed that another fifty Papuans on death row should not face the noose.... Then in their explanation of what happened, field commanders fudged the figures on the number of men who had already been hanged."
According to historian Maclaren Hiari, the victims and families of victims do not want compensation. They only want "acknowledgement or any kind of apology to the people."[5]
(07-30-2013 09:43 AM)DONGED BY JOHNSON Wrote: [ -> ]Yep and poverty stricken locals are currently being moved out of their slums so the Aussie government can build housing for the refugees.

Shouldnt we be looking after those in our region first? those who's ancestors gave their lives protecting our soldiers from the Japanese?

Look up fuzzy wuzzy angels.

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Lovely. It's clear that they're not even trying to hide their divide and conquer tactics.
This makes me ashamed to be a right winger even though I am center right


The refugees only have themselves to blame though, the cost to pay people smugglers is far > than a plane ticket to Australia but if they went that route they would have to wait in line like everyone else.

Also can someone explain why Iranians are seeking asylum???? We have a whole street of Iranian barber shops near me, great guys but fuck me do they dodge my questions about this!
I love it!. I hope this Rudd character has the balls to carry through with it though. I can't wait to see these Lebanese hoodlums of yours try to start shit with the Papuan tribeman! Port Moresby was listed as the most dangerous city in the world by Lonely Planet!

I'd love to see the tribesmen eat a few of those Leb gangsters hearts, that would be real kooky.
(07-30-2013 12:40 PM)Megatherium Wrote: [ -> ]I love it!. I hope this Rudd character has the balls to carry through with it though. I can't wait to see these Lebanese hoodlums of yours try to start shit with the Papuan tribeman! Port Moresby was listed as the most dangerous city in the world by Lonely Planet!

I'd love to see the tribesmen eat a few of those Leb gangsters hearts, that would be real kooky.

The Lebanese are here, these people are Iraqis, Iranians, Sri Lankans (fucking twats can return to Tamil Naidu where the Indian governemt has already built them housing) and random other MEers.
(07-30-2013 12:24 PM)DONGED BY JOHNSON Wrote: [ -> ]This makes me ashamed to be a right winger even though I am center right


The refugees only have themselves to blame though, the cost to pay people smugglers is far > than a plane ticket to Australia but if they went that route they would have to wait in line like everyone else.

Also can someone explain why Iranians are seeking asylum???? We have a whole street of Iranian barber shops near me, great guys but fuck me do they dodge my questions about this!

They're ruled by a council of 12th century holymen. Can't even drink a beer. It really sucks. Don't worry about Iranians though, their cool.
(07-30-2013 12:42 PM)DONGED BY JOHNSON Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-30-2013 12:40 PM)Megatherium Wrote: [ -> ]I love it!. I hope this Rudd character has the balls to carry through with it though. I can't wait to see these Lebanese hoodlums of yours try to start shit with the Papuan tribeman! Port Moresby was listed as the most dangerous city in the world by Lonely Planet!

I'd love to see the tribesmen eat a few of those Leb gangsters hearts, that would be real kooky.

The Lebanese are here, these people are Iraqis, Iranians, Sri Lankans (fucking twats can return to Tamil Naidu where the Indian governemt has already built them housing) and random other MEers.

Kick em out anyway. I want to see those tribesmen eat their hearts and then put it up on youtube.

That's just my thing eh.
I hate Aussie Lebanese Muslims with a burning passion.
THEY'RE!

LOL hasnt a moderate been elected to rule Iran?
Why are those Lebs so bad? Most Lebanese I know from back in Sweden were cool cats.
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