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Anyone for it?

Dont expect anything too academic from me but I have some good arguments.
I have some good pro arguments, I've seen the good that the church can do.
I don't think most people need to be religious, but you need a core group of religious people that can lobby for good morality and societal order.

radical feminists make up a tiny minority of the population but have enacted huge changes that affect every man and woman in the country.
i'd take it on if it were about the necessity of spirituality in the modern world, but religion, i'm not religious so i'd just be playing a part.
Nah im talking about organised religion as opposed to spirituality

(02-14-2013 02:30 PM)Bankable Wrote: [ -> ]I have some good pro arguments, I've seen the good that the church can do.

Was it due to the Church or the common good of man?
I'm not religious enough to take on this debate.

I've always been a 'Doubting Thomas'.
organized religion is necessary because it standardizes the rules of the game.

if everyone just followed their personal spirituality it would be like having an army full of generals

all you need to do is read the communist manifestos or the various illuminati doctrines.. they all wanted to get rid of organized religion.

that alone tells me there is something good about it.

the modern man doesn't like organized religion because he has no power within that structure.. but in fact he does have power.. power to be the MAN of the household!
(02-14-2013 02:40 PM)Fearless Wanker Wrote: [ -> ]Nah im talking about organised religion as opposed to spirituality

(02-14-2013 02:30 PM)Bankable Wrote: [ -> ]I have some good pro arguments, I've seen the good that the church can do.

Was it due to the Church or the common good of man?

The common good of man, facilitated by the church by bringing them together and giving them a goal and purpose.
religion is actually rational if you think about it.

it's like a shortcut in life.

you give yourself up to some higher power.. you get peace of mind.. and can focus on what you need to do, family, work, goals etc.

you know who you are, and what you need to do. it's not that bad. it's only bad if it's extreme.

i mean have people seen these atheist liberal hipsters? they spend years trying to fit in here and there.. finding an identity.. going through some existential dread etc.

while the religious person is like

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^^^LOL

That's the right attitude IMO.
I mean if you didn't subscribe to a religious world view.. and you subscribed the hedonistic model..

what would life be?

fuck some bitches, eat some pizza and sushi?

pop out some babies with a girl with the correct hip/waist ratio?

dick size would be of paramount importance... you would look for endless novelty and triviality

in fact you would be constantly looking for external validation.

.. and actually I would argue.. if you are a hedonist or kinky person.. SUPPORT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. their taboos make the sensual pleasures more enjoyable.

they say catholics have good sex lives cuz of all the repression LOL. it's probably true. i hear indians are pretty kinky too in the sack!
I was going to post this on our "read later" thread but this place seems more appropriate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-zucke...31548.html
^ this guy brings up japan.. but in fact japan is HIGHLY spiritual!

they are very very superstitious.

they have this very fluid melting pot of diff. religions shintoism/buddhism/christianity.. it is totally integrated into the lifestyle and people just don't notice it.
(02-14-2013 03:01 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote: [ -> ]I mean if you didn't subscribe to a religious world view.. and you subscribed the hedonistic model..

what would life be?

fuck some bitches, eat some pizza and sushi?

pop out some babies with a girl with the correct hip/waist ratio?

dick size would be of paramount importance... you would look for endless novelty and triviality

in fact you would be constantly looking for external validation.

.. and actually I would argue.. if you are a hedonist or kinky person.. SUPPORT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. their taboos make the sensual pleasures more enjoyable.

they say catholics have good sex lives cuz of all the repression LOL. it's probably true. i hear indians are pretty kinky too in the sack!

Good questions but there are plenty of agnostics/atheists that live wholesome lives, I dont know if religion is the driver for this? Are we evolved to be "good natures" and "Monogamous?"

Sans religion would we have survived as a species had we not learnt to co-operate?
(02-14-2013 03:05 PM)Fearless Wanker Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2013 03:01 PM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote: [ -> ]I mean if you didn't subscribe to a religious world view.. and you subscribed the hedonistic model..

what would life be?

fuck some bitches, eat some pizza and sushi?

pop out some babies with a girl with the correct hip/waist ratio?

dick size would be of paramount importance... you would look for endless novelty and triviality

in fact you would be constantly looking for external validation.

.. and actually I would argue.. if you are a hedonist or kinky person.. SUPPORT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. their taboos make the sensual pleasures more enjoyable.

they say catholics have good sex lives cuz of all the repression LOL. it's probably true. i hear indians are pretty kinky too in the sack!

Good questions but there are plenty of agnostics/atheists that live wholesome lives, I dont know if religion is the driver for this? Are we evolved to be "good natures" and "Monogamous?"

Sans religion would we have survived as a species had we not learnt to co-operate?

people are simply programmed to believe in some myths in order to find an identity or a cause/meaning.

if not christianity, than socialism.

Socialism is a religion, it's utopian goals are just as fantastic as jesus walking on water.

many agnostics/atheists can live awesome moral lives, but under the backdrop of a moral society.

even in atheistic confucianism.. it was supplemented by fantastic buddhism and taoism.

this need to believe in hokey stories is universal! i'm pretty convinced of it. so my arguemnt is.. believe in the GOOD story!

just like in LIFE OF PI.. i dunno if you saw it.
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