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BTW, the lighting guy, the director and the photographer were all alleged to be one guy, Stanley Kubrick! He was chosen for his ability to not only do a fantastic job with special effects, but because he had such a range of talents (because he started in films by having to do just about everything himself).
I'm not supposed to go on tangents but...

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"Hughes formed the Hughes Aircraft Company in 1932, hiring numerous engineers and designers. He spent the rest of the 1930s and much of the 1940s setting multiple world air speed records and building the Hughes H-1 Racer and H-4 Hercules (the Spruce Goose). He acquired and expanded Trans World Airlines (aka TWA)"

"Over his lifetime, Howard Hughes’ wallet became one of the fattest of his time. It isn’t known exactly how much he was worth at the time of his death, but ten years before he died, he was forced to sell his shares in the airline company TWA. The payout? $546 million (about $3.8 billion today), estimated by some to have been about 1/3 of his net worth"

This is AT Disneyland (or was, AFAIK):
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A lot of people don't realize that pretty much ALL the 'rocks' at Disneyland/world are ARTIFICIALLY CREATED ROCKS. Gee, I wonder for what else that could come in handy?

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Let's not forget the plaster of paris models they meticulously made for whatever reason:

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(08-30-2018 03:36 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-29-2018 04:42 PM)pug-thug Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:shaun smith
3 days ago (edited)
Ask yourself one question... could an operation like a fake moon landing be kept a secret all these years? From the astronauts to the camera, audio and lighting operators, everyone at NASA and the white house staff... Please, Bill Clinton couldn't keep a blowjob a secret for a couple weeks and there were only 2 people in that room.

lol @ this junior level argument.

the manhattan project was kept secret for 10-15 years at least with 10s of thousands of people working on it

also even if info materializes, if the MSM doesn't cover it , it didn't happen for the vast majority of the dupes

They don't know the slightest bit about compartmentalization or cover stories. Why does the lighting guy have to know his job is faking the Moon landing? He is just told to set up the lights, and they are filming a 'simulation', and if he really has to know they can tell him it is "in case something goes wrong with the mission and we lose some of the transmission". Etc etc etc. You tell everyone the absolute minimum.

The rest, probably 100-200 have to know what is going on. They are sworn to secrecy, and a few people are killed off, so everyone knows what is at stake. And that means this is a good time to explore that. How many people surrounding the Apollo Program died, and how many of those deaths were suspicious, or at a critical time?

Like with JFK, the reason there hasn't been another assassination of a President since then is because it hasn't been necessary. You simply show them the JFK tape and say "You get the point?" I.E. after one person is killed, a dozen can be intimidated.

And we already covered the death of Gus Grissom and the Apollo 1 crew in detail, so that will be 1st on the list.

1. Gus Grissom, Edward White, and Roger Chaffee (crew of AS-204, later designated 'Apollo 1')

Yep. If a few people die suspiciously it shuts everyone else up.

also at the end of the day like you said maybe only 50-200 people have to know what's going on.

everyone else was doing their part.

Facebook, Google are another example. How many of their employees knew they were part of PRISM and massive spying before snowden? probably virtually none. Maybe only a few dozen people had to know.
(08-30-2018 08:02 AM)pug-thug Wrote: [ -> ]Let's not forget the plaster of paris models they meticulously made for whatever reason:

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I get an error on those images, EY.
let me check
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27 April 1967: Death of Thomas Baron

Who is Thomas Baron? I will try to stick with Wikipedia, even though they are discredited, I feel it is a good starting point because basically Wiki will list everything that CANNOT BE DENIED.

"Thomas Baron was a quality control and safety inspector for North American Aviation (NAA), when it was the primary contractor to build the Apollo command module.[2]

After the Apollo 1 fire Baron wrote a 500-page report on NASA safety protocol violations, which he gave to Rep. Olin E. Teague's investigation at Cape Kennedy, Florida, on April 21, 1967. When Baron mentioned the report during his testimony, Teague told him "Your report went to the chairman of the full committee, not to me", and that "something of that length ... we can take it as an exhibit."

So in January 1967, the Apollo 1 fire happens, which keeps the astronauts quiet. 3 months later, Thomas Baron dies, and that tells the contractors involved "Keep your mouth shut, or you AND your family might die!"

"Six days after his testimony, Baron was killed instantly, along with his wife and stepdaughter, when a train crashed into their car near their home in Florida.[1][4] Baron's death, which was witnessed by a woman, was later ruled as an accident, with no suspicion of foul play"

Yeah. Parked on a rail line by accident. OK. The woman who witnessed it was probably CIA, and I would venture that Baron and his wife and stepdaughter were ALREADY DEAD when their car was parked on the rail line! Because when a train hits your car, no one asks "How did he die?"

Same as the Bin Laden Seal Team 6 'helicopter crash'.

"When his indictments were finally aired before Teague's subcommittee, during a meeting at the Cape on 21 April, Baron's credibility was impaired by one of his alleged informants, a fellow North American employee named Mervin Holmburg. Holmburg denied knowing anything about the cause of the accident, although Baron had told the committee that Holmburg "knew exactly what caused the fire." Holmburg testified that Baron "gets all his information from anonymous phone calls, people calling him and people dropping him a word here and there. That is what he tells me." Ironically, Baron and all his family died in a car-train crash only a week after this exposure to congressional questioning"

https://history.nasa.gov/Apollo204/barron.html

LOL. Why do you think the people called him anonymously, esp. if there were suspicions already within NASA that the Apollo 1 crew had been murdered?

Suspicious Deaths List
No. 2: Thomas Baron
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(08-30-2018 10:17 AM)Chaos Reigns Wrote: [ -> ]27 April 1967: Death of Thomas Baron

Who is Thomas Baron? I will try to stick with Wikipedia, even though they are discredited, I feel it is a good starting point because basically Wiki will list everything that CANNOT BE DENIED.

"Thomas Baron was a quality control and safety inspector for North American Aviation (NAA), when it was the primary contractor to build the Apollo command module.[2]

After the Apollo 1 fire Baron wrote a 500-page report on NASA safety protocol violations, which he gave to Rep. Olin E. Teague's investigation at Cape Kennedy, Florida, on April 21, 1967. When Baron mentioned the report during his testimony, Teague told him "Your report went to the chairman of the full committee, not to me", and that "something of that length ... we can take it as an exhibit."

So in January 1967, the Apollo 1 fire happens, which keeps the astronauts quiet. 3 months later, Thomas Baron dies, and that tells the contractors involved "Keep your mouth shut, or you AND your family might die!"

"Six days after his testimony, Baron was killed instantly, along with his wife and stepdaughter, when a train crashed into their car near their home in Florida.[1][4] Baron's death, which was witnessed by a woman, was later ruled as an accident, with no suspicion of foul play"

Yeah. Parked on a rail line by accident. OK. The woman who witnessed it was probably CIA, and I would venture that Baron and his wife and stepdaughter were ALREADY DEAD when their car was parked on the rail line! Because when a train hits your car, no one asks "How did he die?"

Same as the Bin Laden Seal Team 6 'helicopter crash'.

"When his indictments were finally aired before Teague's subcommittee, during a meeting at the Cape on 21 April, Baron's credibility was impaired by one of his alleged informants, a fellow North American employee named Mervin Holmburg. Holmburg denied knowing anything about the cause of the accident, although Baron had told the committee that Holmburg "knew exactly what caused the fire." Holmburg testified that Baron "gets all his information from anonymous phone calls, people calling him and people dropping him a word here and there. That is what he tells me." Ironically, Baron and all his family died in a car-train crash only a week after this exposure to congressional questioning"

https://history.nasa.gov/Apollo204/barron.html

LOL. Why do you think the people called him anonymously, esp. if there were suspicions already within NASA that the Apollo 1 crew had been murdered?

Suspicious Deaths List
No. 2: Thomas Baron

yeah Bill Kaysing was the one that popularized this episode.

A lot of suspicious deaths early on.

plus why were virtually all of the astronauts high level masons? is it due to their ability to keep secrets?
Some of Baron's general notes:
1. Lack of communication between almost everyone.
2. The fact that people in responsible positions did not take many of the problems seriously.
3. Engineers operating equipment instead of technical people.
4. Many technicians do not know their job. This is partly due to the fact that they are constantly shifted from one job to another.
5. The constant transfer of QC and technical types of people to different types of tasks. Many of the techs will tell the QC man that they have never done that type of job before, or used that type of equipment before. This is one of the most prevalent problems NAA has.

Oh geez... Sure sounds like prep for a simulation, and the use of compartmentalization to me!

"I have been told by two managers that we are still in research and development stages even if we are going to send up a manned spacecraft. This, I firmly believe is the wrong approach to the project. Does NASA know or realize that every spec that we have is inadequate for the task being done? ... Do they know of the great number of people we have working on the hardware [that] are not satisfied with their own work and the work of others?"

" If an OCP has been written for a specific system, it should not be changed. Process specifications should not be changed to conform to the results of a test on a component. "

LOL, so he is saying there were specs for a component, then after the component was tested, the specs were changed to say that the component matched the required specs! IOW, goal-seeking!

" We should completely eliminate all verbal orders. "
Sounds like they didn't want written orders to be kept for some reason???

"The constant transfers of men from one task to another, even if they are in the middle of a test, is distracting to the technicians. He never really knows if the test was completed properly or if some problems arose that he could have helped with because he was familiar with the original set-up."

So if something goes wrong, the guy who was monitoring it doesn't even find out, because he has been moved around! Or he joins the next stage without knowing the original set up/what was required/what they were aiming for.
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This just shows as 9 copies of the same pic of Kubrick. Is that what you were going for? Big Grin
Piece #140 of the puzzle:
"Astronaut training took place at Langley Research Center in Virginia"

" LaRC has focused primarily on aeronautical research, but has also tested space hardware at the facility, such as the Apollo Lunar Module. In addition, a number of the earliest high-profile space missions were planned and designed on-site. "

"Since the start of Project Gemini, Langley was a center for training of rendezvous in space. In 1965, Langley opened the Lunar Landing Research Facility for simulations of moon landings with a mock Apollo Lunar Module suspended from a gantry over a simulated lunar landscape. There was experimental work on some Lunar Landing Research Vehicles (LLRV"

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What else is in Langley? Hmm....

"Langley is often used as a metonym for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), as it is home to its headquarters, the George Bush Center for Intelligence"
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