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Washington (CNN)A frenzied 24 hours filled with hushed deliberations on Capitol Hill, senior-level meetings at the White House and back-to-back phone calls with the President came to an end Wednesday -- quietly and unceremoniously.

Well before midnight, this much was clear: Republicans still had no deal on their health care bill to repeal Obamacare, as a Thursday vote loomed around the corner.
House Speaker Paul Ryan and his top deputies huddled with a group of moderate Republicans in the Speaker's office Wednesday night, as members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus sounded increasingly optimistic that they were close to getting a major concession from the White House.


Hours later, Ryan and his top deputies never came out to speak to the cameras and dozens of reporters waiting outside, and it was clear that leadership had no good news to share. With the exception of a few members who rushed away without speaking to press, all leaders in the room, including Ryan, appeared to have ducked out using side exits.
While this gathering was wrapping up, House leaders had gotten more bad news: GOP Rep. Charlie Dent, the leader of the moderate Tuesday Group, released a statement opposing the current bill spearheaded by Ryan and President Trump.
The late-night session in Ryan's office came soon after what appeared to be a major breakthrough in the impasse. The Freedom Caucus, which had stubbornly opposed the GOP bill for days, was suddenly optimistic that a deal was possible. The White House was offering a provision that would strip the so-called "essential health benefits" from the House bill, and GOP leadership indicated they were open to this change.
Late Wednesday, Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows said: "We are very hopeful we can get this done."
Now, Trump and his GOP colleagues on Capitol Hill head into Thursday still unclear of the fate of their mission to repeal Obamacare.
"It has always been the case - pull the bill one way, risk losing members on the other end," a lawmaker involved told CNN.
The vote count has been tight. According to CNN's ongoing whip count, as of Wednesday night, 24 House Republicans have flat-out said they will vote against the bill, while four more have indicated they are likely to oppose it.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/h...care-bill/
Probably better to not touch it than to take responsibility for 'Ryan-Care'.

No one liked Ryan-Care, and no one likes Paul Ryan.

Correction: Someone out there DOES like Paul Ryan.

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WASHINGTON — Republican lawmakers moved to dismantle landmark internet privacy protections for individuals on Thursday, the first decisive strike against telecommunications and technology regulations created during the Obama administration and a harbinger for more deregulation to come.

In a 50-to-48 vote largely along party lines, the Senate Republican majority on Thursday voted to overturn the privacy rules, which had been created in October by the Federal Communications Commission.

The move means a company like Verizon or Comcast can continue tracking and sharing people’s browsing and app activity without asking their permission. An individual’s data collected by these companies also does not need to be secured with “reasonable measures” against hackers. The privacy rules, which had sought to address these issues, were scheduled to go into effect at the end of this year.

Thursday’s vote begins a repeal of those regulations. Next week, the House is expected to mirror the Senate’s action through the same Congressional Review Act procedure that allows Congress to overturn new agency rules. The House is expected to pass the resolution, which would then move to President Trump to sign.

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The Senate’s action alarmed consumer advocates and Democratic lawmakers, who warned that broadband providers have the widest view into the online habits of Americans. Without the rules, they said, such companies would have more power to collect data on people and sell sensitive information.

“These were the strongest online privacy rules to date, and this vote is a huge step backwards in consumer protection writ large,” said Dallas Harris, a policy fellow for the consumer group Public Knowledge. “The rules asked that when things were sensitive, an internet service provider asked permission first before collecting. That’s not a lot to ask.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/techn...pe=article
Republicans aren't serious about repealing it.
The republicans voted 7 TIMES to repeal it when Obama was president. Only because they knew the repeal couldn't pass without a majority. Now they have both houses of Congress and the White House, they don't want a repeal? They want to replace it with watered-down ObamaCare. Just goes to show you that they were just pretend opposition.




(03-24-2017 12:38 PM)jho Wrote: [ -> ]The republicans voted 7 TIMES to repeal it when Obama was president. Only because they knew the repeal couldn't pass without a majority. Now they have both houses of Congress and the White House, they don't want a repeal? They want to replace it with watered-down ObamaCare. Just goes to show you that they were just pretend opposition.

yep. one step behind liberals.

the US was meant to be a masonic democratic order. they use the hegelian dialectic to maintain some type of steam valve with the repub parties. conservatives never win since the basis of US thought is protestant, which is a type of warped religious liberalism.
this was probably his devious plan all along

any serious repeal of obamacare would not happen this quickly.

he is doing a bunch of show shit to make it look like he is trying to achieve his campaign promises. when they get shot down he will say he was cockblocked by the opposition.

a sincere effort to replace obamacare would take much more planning and time to get the required coalition of support needed.

this dude is a dunce of the highest order. it's cringeworthy just looking at him act like he's some type of maverick outsider at this point
Quote:President Trump indicated Friday that he believes House Speaker Paul Ryan should keep his job if the Republican healthcare bill fails to attract enough votes to survive.

"Yes," Trump said when asked that question by a reporter in the Oval Office.

Asked if he thought the GOP had rushed to pass the American Health Care Act, an Obamacare reform bill that has struggled to overcome conservative opposition, Trump said "no."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-...le/2618347
he rushed it to make sure it wouldn't pass. window dressing to give his plebtarded fans some superficial assurance that he is up to the job.

this is just ridiculous on so many levels. you don't just waltz in and overturn this thing less than 100 days going into office. you need planning and team building. he didn't do that. just haste and waste
Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan talks about the strenuous process of repealing and replacing the Affordable Health Care Act (ACHA), commonly known as "Obamacare."

After postponing a vote on Thursday, the US House was supposed to vote on the replacement legislation, called the American Health Care Act (AHCA) on Friday, but President Donald Trump asked Ryan to pull the bill.


​Ryan reportedly walked to the White House to tell Trump he didn't have the votes to pass the bill. Trump immediately picked up the phone, called the Washington Post, and said he was pulling the bill.

"This is a disappointing day for us," Ryan said. "I'm really proud of the bill we produced," Ryan said, in the middle of a national embarrassment. Ryan is congratulating himself and the rest of the GOP, even though after seven years, the bill the GOP said it had ready apparently never existed. Or, as Congress has made clear, it was a bad bill.

"We're going to go back and figure out what the next steps are," Ryan said. The Freedom Caucus told Ryan that most of its members would not vote for the bill, meaning Ryan couldn't whip enough votes to pass a bill in a chamber controlled by his own party.

https://sputniknews.com/politics/2017032...ealthcare/
Republicans had 7 years to come up with a replacement bill. I'm calling it right now. Republicans lose the Senate in the next election cycle.
The Failure Of Ryancare Is A Win For Trump

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The fake news media and the Democrats are gleefully gloating about the failure of the Republicans to live up to one of their key campaign promises: repealing and replacing Obamacare. As a matter of fact, this is the best thing that ever could have happened to Donald Trump and the Republican Party, and he knew it from the start.

The healthcare battle was at its root a question of branding. One of the major reasons why the Democratic party has been crushed so badly since Obamacare’s passage was because the Republicans, in a rare moment of persuasive prowess, branded it as such. As a consequence, even the fake news media refers to the Affordable Care Act as “Obamacare.” That means that every time your premium or deductible went up, you saw Obama’s snickering face. Identity, as Scott Adams often writes, is the strongest form of persuasion, and Obamacare was his and the Democrats’ identity. They rode it to final defeat in 2016.

Clearly, this was something that would need to be handled delicately. Aside from the vulnerability that would go with branding a face on a new healthcare bill (as the Democrats surely would), healthcare is a very personal subject. While taxes, foreign policy, and even immigration are more abstract issues, healthcare is something you live with every day and pay for every month. Moreover, it’s something you feel physically.

Combine its proximity to you with a face on how it’s done and healthcare is perhaps the most volatile of all issues. Any tweaking on this issue would have to be handled with the most extreme delicacy, and it’s the very reason why I warned that starting with healthcare was a potentially catastrophic, presidency-killing idea.

Enter Paul Ryan.

Whether through ignorance of people and persuasion (Paul Ryan lives in the world of numbers, not people) or some kind of nefarious intent, Paul Ryan was always best positioned to destroy Donald Trump. By trying to do healthcare first, my nerves were rattled that Trump would get dragged into a quagmire not entirely of his own making. In the end, perhaps I feared too much. Paul Ryan was too incompetent to damage Donald Trump.

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Blunder 1: Planning to Fail
The old adage is that failure to plan is planning to fail, and the Republican leadership in Congress showed this in spades. For seven years, they campaigned on “repealing and replacing Obamacare.” In the end, we learned that this was more of a meme than a promise, a useful rhetorical point for engagement, not a plan of action.

There was no plan, so they had to stitch one together hastily to keep up with Paul Ryan’s vaunted “200 day schedule.” It shouldn’t surprise anyone that what came was a slapstick pile of garbage.

Blunder 2: Talk to No One
Paul Ryan drafted this abomination in total secrecy, without any input from the various factions in his conference. Anyone familiar with basic selling psychology will tell you that trust and rapport is essential for your persuasion to be successful. By keeping the bill under lock and key, but making a show that something was coming, he did exactly the opposite. It seemed shady, and people had bad feelings as a first impression. Rand Paul exploited this fully and threw more tar on during his marketing campaign when it was being drafted.



Instead of building rapport, Paul Ryan broke it, then tried to ram the bill down everyone’s throat.

Blunder 3: Be a Corporate Whore
The thing we were promised was that Obamacare would be replaced with a competitive health care system. That meant drug imports, negotiating on drug prices, the end to mandated insurance plans (such as forcing men to buy maternity coverage or women to buy prostate care), and the ability to purchase insurance across state lines. All of these things would have lowered the cost of care.

What we got was…I’m still not even sure. None of those things were in the bill. The only thing that definitively was was a tax break for the very rich. Meanwhile, the voters that put Trump over the top in the Rust Belt would have been hurt the most. The optics of this, to say the least, were terrible. Ann Coulter put it better than I could have:


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We were promised one thing, but we were being sold a bill of goods. Trump’s base hated the bill as much as the Democrats did. The only one that seemed to like it was Paul Ryan.

Blunder 4: 3 Phases to Hell
Most of us know by now that whenever the government makes a promise, assume the opposite. “This bill will not radically alter the ethnic mix of the country,” the backers of the 1965 Hart Celler act said. “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor,” we were told in more recent times. The Paul Ryan plan, we were told, would have multiple phases.

Phase 1 was supposed to be this piece of shit, then we’d get to the good stuff in phase 3. Phase 2 would be deregulation by HHS Secretary Tom Price.

We were told that because phase 3 would require 60 votes in the Senate, we could only do phase 1 now. But if all the good stuff, the real reforms, were in phase 3, it begged the question: what was the point of going through phase 1?

All you would do is swap ownership of the health care problem that was a key reason why the Democrats were blasted to pieces over Obama’s term, when they should have been in a position to dominate government for decades. And it would’ve stayed that way, because phase 3 would never have happened. Ted Cruz and others knew it.



Blunder 5: Persuasive Misfire
Here’s arguably the biggest blunder of all. If you were going to need 60 votes in the Senate to get the real reforms, why wouldn’t you just try for that anyway? If you needed the 60 votes to get the real reforms, then there was no point in trying anything different.

Want to talk about The Art of the Deal? By putting the real reforms in the bill, the Republicans would have had real leverage to beat Democrats over the head with. How could they reasonably say they’re against importing drugs, or for the government to be negotiating prices for entitlement programs, or to bust up the insurance monopolies and create a competitive national marketplace? They’d have been in a bind. They would look like corporate shills and whores. Imagine those soundbites and headlines? Even the fake news media wouldn’t be able to twist and contort that truth.

Instead, Paul Ryan thought small. He insisted on going through “budget reconciliation” to keep it a narrow, Republican bill that only swapped ownership of the problem. He simply lacked the imagination or the framing of a persuader to do something worthwhile. If he wanted to have a big healthcare fight, he had the weapons to wage it.

Instead, he chose to fight with puny weapons and got crushed.

Conclusion
The failure of this bill is a boon for Trump. Whatever importance it seems to have now is only because we put more weight on things that happen recently. At the end of the year it will just be a footnote for Trump, while confidence in Ryan has taken a big hit (though there’s no real movement to oust him as Speaker yet).

Trump avoids a prolonged healthcare battle while getting to claim that he tried to do something when Obamacare explodes. The Democrats reinforced their ownership of Obamacare by fighting for it so hard. The weaselly Ryan is damaged, and Trump doesn’t have his face on a terrible healthcare bill. The fact that he nuked this bill by declaring that he was done negotiating just before it was put up for a vote is telling that he understood this.

He can thus move on to an easier part of his agenda (tax reform and building the wall) as part of serving the ends he was promising – ending open borders and bringing back jobs. All’s well that ends well.
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