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Russian passenger plane crashes over Egypt


A Russian passenger plane carrying 224 people has crashed over central Sinai, Egypt's Prime Minister's office has confirmed.

The plane was travelling from the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to the Russian city of St Petersburg, according to Egypt's state-run news agency, MENA.

Egyptian security sources say there is no indication the plane was shot down or blown up.

Egypt's North Sinai is home to a two-year-old Islamist insurgency. Militants linked to Islamic State have killed hundreds of soldiers and have also attacked Western targets in recent months.

According to Egyptian media, the pilot reported a technical failure shortly after take off and requested to land at a nearby airport, Sky's Middle East Correspondent Sherine Tadros reported.

However, Mike Vivian, the former head of flight operations at the Civil Aviation Authority, told Sky News 'hostile action' should not be ruled out.

'Although hostile action has been dismissed I am absolutely certain that will be one of the focuses of investigators on the ground,' he said.

The plane departed at 5.51am local time and disappeared from radar screens 23 minutes after take off, MENA reported.

The aircraft, an Airbus A321 operated by the Russian airline Kogalymavia, had been flying at an altitude of 31,00ft when contact was lost, according to Egypt's civil aviation ministry.

Egyptian search and rescue teams have located the wreckage in the Hassana area, 22 miles (35km) south of the northern city of Arish, the ministry said.

An Egyptian security officer at the scene said the aircraft is completely destroyed and most of those on board are feared dead.

Poor weather conditions and the remote, mountainous terrain are understood to be hindering rescue efforts.

Russian aviation sources are reporting that the plane was carrying 200 adult passengers, 17 children and 7 crew members.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has expressed his condolences to the families of the victims of the crash.

A statement from Egypt's prime minister's office said a cabinet level crisis committee would meet to deal with the crash.

Kogalymavia/Metrojet is a small airline, with only around six jets, which mainly operates Russian internal flights. The firm has had one safety incident with an aircraft on the ground in 2011 in which three people were killed.

There were several conflicting reports about the fate of the plane prior to the confirmation from the Egyptian government.

Earlier an Egyptian official told local media the plane was safely in Turkish airspace after briefly losing contact with air traffic controllers.There were also reports that the plane went missing in Cypriot airspace.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stori...vyqoV.dpuf
RIP - It seems like planes are dropping out of the sky a lot more often than they used to.
Well, that sure isn't good. Reminder to not fly anywhere close to the Middle East. Ever.
Best to avoid flying if you can. Your plane might not disappear in North America, but boy they sure do treat their passengers like shit.

Air travel used to be fun. Now it sucks on toast.
I haven't flown in a few years, but it's not so bad with the electronic kiosks and stuff. Then you don't have to talk to those very bitter people that work the counters...unless you're checking baggage, I guess, which I tend to avoid. I tend to get through TSA pretty smoothly, haha. The flight attendants are usually decent enough, I don't ask much, or really anything of them, aside from taking the food when they come by. Some of the big jets really pack you in there, though, very cramped, especially in America.
I find it odd and we all do that now when a plane goes down the initial sense is its coming down is suspect.

Remember the days when a plane accident was just that?


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(10-31-2015 11:40 PM)Reflexion Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't flown in a few years, but it's not so bad with the electronic kiosks and stuff. Then you don't have to talk to those very bitter people that work the counters...unless you're checking baggage, I guess, which I tend to avoid. I tend to get through TSA pretty smoothly, haha. The flight attendants are usually decent enough, I don't ask much, or really anything of them, aside from taking the food when they come by. Some of the big jets really pack you in there, though, very cramped, especially in America.

Try crossing international borders and coming into America. It's not a lot of fun, tell you what. Canada and London aren't far behind. They treat International travelers like criminals.
(10-31-2015 11:41 PM)what Wrote: [ -> ]I find it odd and we all do that now when a plane goes down the initial sense is its coming down is suspect.

Remember the days when a plane accident was just that?


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With Russia fucking up Muirca's ally ISIS in recent weeks, it's hard not to assume foul play when a Russian plane goes down in a western sponsored country.

It is not the first time a Russian plane has gone down in the territory of a Washington backed regime.
I wouldn't be surprised at some sort of rejoicing in western media at this news. Maybe Jon Stewart or Colbert making jokes about karma or whatever, since the MH17 was pinned on the Russians.

Quote:Russia will pay price for Syrian airstrikes, says US defence secretary

Ashton Carter predicts reprisal attacks on Russian soil over Vladimir Putin’s military campaign to prop up Bashar al-Assad’s regime

Thursday 8 October 2015 14.45 EDT Last modified on Friday 9 October 2015 05.27 EDT

Moscow will soon start paying the price for its escalating military intervention in Syria in the form of reprisal attacks and casualties, the US defence secretary has warned, amid signs that Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies are preparing to counter the Russian move.

Ashton Carter was talking at a meeting of Nato defence ministers in Brussels on Thursday during which the ministers agreed to increase a Nato response force intended to move quickly to flashpoints.

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“They have initiated a joint ground offensive with the Syrian regime, shattering the facade that they are there to fight Isil [Isis],” he added. “This will have consequences for Russia itself, which is rightly fearful of attacks. In coming days, the Russians will begin to suffer from casualties.”

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oc...-secretary
(11-01-2015 01:27 AM)rezin Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't be surprised at some sort of rejoicing in western media at this news. Maybe Jon Stewart or Colbert making jokes about karma or whatever, since the MH17 was pinned on the Russians.

Quote:Russia will pay price for Syrian airstrikes, says US defence secretary

Ashton Carter predicts reprisal attacks on Russian soil over Vladimir Putin’s military campaign to prop up Bashar al-Assad’s regime

Thursday 8 October 2015 14.45 EDT Last modified on Friday 9 October 2015 05.27 EDT

Moscow will soon start paying the price for its escalating military intervention in Syria in the form of reprisal attacks and casualties, the US defence secretary has warned, amid signs that Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies are preparing to counter the Russian move.

Ashton Carter was talking at a meeting of Nato defence ministers in Brussels on Thursday during which the ministers agreed to increase a Nato response force intended to move quickly to flashpoints.

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“They have initiated a joint ground offensive with the Syrian regime, shattering the facade that they are there to fight Isil [Isis],” he added. “This will have consequences for Russia itself, which is rightly fearful of attacks. In coming days, the Russians will begin to suffer from casualties.”

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oc...-secretary

America, vowing vengeance on Russia for attacking ISIS. Can't make this this up. It is not surprising that some people can't handle the truth.
ISIS Claims Responsibility for Russian Passenger Plane Crashed in Egypt

Saturday 31 October 2015 - 14:32


http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2015/10/...-in-egypt/

New York – The Islamic State in Egypt has claimed responsibility for the alleged downing of the Russian passenger plane that crashed Saturday in the Sinai Peninsula, with 224 people on board.

The radical group ISIS took on to Twitter to publicly claim responsibility for shooting down the Russian aircraft.

“Soldiers of the Caliphate were able to bring down a Russian plane in the Sinai province carrying more than 220 passengers who were all killed,” the statement of the extremist group said.

According to the ISIS tweet by its affiliate group Welayat Sinai, they allegedly shot down the aircraft it as a vengeful move, acting in retaliation to the Russian intervention in Syria.

“As you kill, you will be killed,” Welayat Sinai said implying their revenge against Russia, adding that “those who ally with them [Russians]” are not safe either on Egyptian territory or air space.

However, Egyptian authorities have denied the extremist group’s claims saying there is no evidence of the alleged terrorist attack as the aircraft’s altitude was too high for any missile to reach it, prior to its descent.

Russian Minister of Transportation told Australian News Network that ISIS claims “can’t be considered accurate”.

Although the cause of the crash has not been determined at the time of writing, Pilot Ayman Al-Mokamed who is in charge of the investigation said the plane crashed due to “technical difficulties”.

Flightradar24 tweeted that the “flight #7K9268 was descending with about 6000 feet per minute just before signal was lost”.

The Airbus A-321 crashed into the Sinai desert in northern Egypt, 23 minutes after leaving the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, bound for the Russian city of St Petersburg, according to the Russian Embassy in Cairo.
Of course the weapons used to bring the plane down were supplied by the US via an intermediary such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, or Turkey.
^ Not just the weapons.

Keep in mind the kind of arms that can bring down a passenger plane that flies at a higher altitude than airforce jets, are much more complicated to use than the AK-47's and RPG's the rag-tag mercenaries use. You can't use a stinger for such altitudes.

This requires a specialist team, if it was shot down instead of an internal bomb.

We know of at least one country that has a sector that deals with bringing down passenger planes (or flying them into buildings)
The Ukrainian Wikileaks website leaked a transcript showing that Senator John McCain had plotted the crash of a plane over Syria, and had planned on blaming it on the Russians – just one day before the Russian passenger plane crashed over the Sinai Peninsula.

Below is a transcript of the plans that were allegedly made, along with information as to who each of the people in the transcript are:


“M.”: Mikhail Saakashvili, ex-president of Georgia, Odessa region governor

David Kezerashvili – former head of financial police and minister of defense of Georgia “K.”: David Kezerashvili – former head of financial police and minister of defense of Georgia. Wanted for embezzling state funds


“G”: Anton Gerashenko – people’s deputy of Ukraine in faction “People’s Front”, secretary of Verkhovnaya Rada committee on issues of legal basis of law enforcement. Advisor to the minister of interior, Arsen Avakov, resident agent of US special services


“R.”: Ramzan Machelikashvili – cousin of Ruslan Machelikashvili, infamous field commander of Islamic State, callsign Seyfullakh. Commander of special anti-aircraft unit, received special training in the ATO zone. Anti-aircraft specialist sent to Syria.

M. Let him come in!

M. Sit down, David! Everything should be done on time, as we discussed. You understand the importance of everything! Wait a second, I will turn on anti-surveillance.

McCain confirmed the plan, everything is in place so you know. We got cover from the US Senate. In Syria, Russians must be hit, or else if Russians and Americans fundamentally agree, they will really dump Ukraine. Donbass is on conservation, project Transnistria is suspended. If it goes on, we are done! We should speed things up in Syria!

Have you prepared our guys?

K: Yes, everything is done. Today, they fly to Antalya and then go to Syria.

They received good training and will tear everything with their spirit. These are our Kistintsy (Georgian Chechens living in the Pankisi Gorge in Georgia), tough guys. Ramzan Machelikashvili was appointed a commander, all four obey him. They shoot from all weapons, they are anti-aircraft professionals. They are waiting for specific instructions.

M. Give Ramzan this phone number and cell phone. Upon arrival it is necessary to send a message, there is Warren’s man from the CIA, he will greet and take the guys. Turks are warned and will let them through. In short, this agent of Steve Warren knows everything and speaks Russian. After, Ramzan should give him this phone.

M. Yes, yes, will turn it off.

K. It’s all clear, but what about equipment and weapons?

M. Wait, wait! I have to pick up the call from Gerashchenko .
M. Hello Anton! Our guys are leaving today. Is it all ready?

G. Mr. Mikhail Nikolayevich! It is loud over there!

G. Now I can hear! Avakov (Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine) transported everything, there are five anti-aircraft [PZRK – rus.] “Willow” [Verba” – rus.] and “Needle S” [“Igla S” – rus.], full ammunition and equipment. Large anti-aircraft guns are on the road. As soon as they pass the border, your chieftain, what’s his name, Ash-Shushani will meet them, the guys will be on the case.

M. Excellent! Excellent! Well, talk to you later.

M. David! All you need is already in place and when they cross the border they will get everything. There they will be greeted by Tarhan Batirashvili. You know who he is? He has great influence in the Islamic State, all Chechens pass through him, his nickname is Ash-Shushani. Also ​​Ramzan’s cousin, Ruslan Machelikashvili will also meet them. He is a ruthless thug, Americans told me.

So, the whole group will be in Latakia, in the Al-Nusra zone, the goal is to shoot down American plane. They will get flight information, there is a local Kurd there for that. The plan is turning out very cool! American plane will be shot down by Russian military. This will be told by the Prisoner, that the target was shot down from PZRK. The scene will be amusing, the whole world will talk about it.

After this group will go to Hasaka, it is a city near the Kurds and there they will destroy a Kurdish village, the Russians will do everything. In return, the Kurds will shoot down a Russian plane with Stingers. The goal is to pit the Americans and Russians in Syria. The Turks will be grateful, they promise to rouse the Crimean Tatars.

After it is done in Syria, you will see, if Americans don’t bring troops to Ukraine and all our projects will begin operating. McCain is waiting for our actions. Otherwise, Obama will not raise his ass, elections are coming soon and he will do nothing. You see, Poroshenko also began to wag his tail in front of Putin.

C. I don’t know, Misha! It’s your plans, you know better. I’ll explain everything to the guys and will send them on the way. It’s great that Tarhan Batirashvili will meet them, he knows how to fight and will supervise everything. At one time I accepted him into the Army. His mother is Kistinka, and a Georgian father.

M. What I said, do in time, give each one of the five $10 thousand. Give $20,000 to Tarhan’s father in Ahmet.

K. I already paid the guys, and my people will pass $20 thousand to Tbilisi.

Machelikashvili is waiting in the reception, want to have a couple words with him?!

M. Sure!

Sveta! There’s a man with a beard who came with David, named Ramzan, let him in.

S. Of course, Mikhail Nikolayevich

M. How are you Ramzan! How are things?

R. Batono Misha! We are ready to execute all the tasks.

M. Very good! The peace in the whole world depends on you! I and Dato will support you and your families in everything.

R. Thank you very much. David is very helpful. After completing the tasks in Syria, we will bring you back to Georgia, this is our next task. We will blow up the entire Georgia, if necessary!

M. Thank you Ramzan, this time will come, but for now we should take care of Ukraine. Dato will explain, everything is ready. Our guys will meet, Ruslan is your cousin, Aslan Margoshvili, Tarhan Batirashvili and others. You will be in good hands. Say hello to the guys and be careful. Take care of yourself.

R. You make me feel better, Misha batono. I did not know that the brother will meet, we will do everything 100%. I thought Tarhan died, I heard he was blown up along with El-Baghdadi. Insha Allah, he is alive.

M. Ramzan, take it! This is a dagger from me.

R. May Allah protect you, batono Misha! We will not disgrace ourselves and do everything, I swear to you!

K. Ok, Ramzan, wait in the waiting room, I will come out soon!

M. Ramzan is a tough man, right?! Tell me, are the Swiss accounts already available ?!

K. The court has closed my cases and the accounts are available, just need to submit documents to the bank. Adeishvili was very helpful. His guys did everything at the court. I sent them some, and will have to send more.

M. Kama still has to be paid. You said that you transferred the shares to Kakha’s people [Kaladze, Minister of Energy of Georgia] and it was closed. What is f#cken wrong with everyone to throw my money away like that!

K. Don’t yell! I told you, 35% I gave from the port and oil infrastructure. From gas I gave 10%, and added 10% for Bezhuashvili. Otherwise they didn’t agree. And in court they did everything, for Meishvili, Shavliashili and Levna Murusidze I must send fifty, I gave nothing to them yet, first just to pay the judges who were on my case. I told you everything in advance. If not, I would get a judgement like Ugulava, and would block access to the accounts.

M. F#ck their mother, b#tch! This f#cking Magis sold Kolomoisky the video. Penguin caught it and they posted the frames with Bacho f#ggots. For this reason, all the planned actions had to be stopped, against Gazprom and in defense of Rustavi 2. I said a thousand times, remove this Kardav or pay the money to this bastard. Ilham too can be offended and cut off our debt in SOCAR. It must be solved somehow. When are you going to Zurich?

K. I will send our guys, tomorrow I’ll go to Kiev and from there to Switzerland. After going to Baku, there I will tackle SOCAR issues.

M. Watch out for our Pankisi guys, so they are happy. This is the most important thing right now. As soon as we pit Moscow and Washington, then smoothly will move to Kiev. Ok, later!

M. Wait, wait. Glad I remembered! Tina asked, in Sagarejo, that her relative needs help with elections. Our guys are doing everything, and Tina will involve the military but Azersky Muganlo is crucial. Our deputy, Azik, he will contact you and when you will arrive to Baku, he will come, give him the money to bribe Muganloisk muftis. Also ask the Baku elite, to help me in this regard. There is a bitch Iniashvili, she should not win elections, California Senators support her, but I don’t care.

Do you understand what to do ?! Prior to going to Kiev meet with Adeishvili, and he will explain all the details.

K. Yes, let Zura explain everything, there are so many things, I can get lost, I need his help.

M. Good. As soon as you send the guys, let me know, I have to inform McCain, he is waiting!

K. Ok, Misha! I must go, a lot to do.
I'd be surprised if the plane was actually shot down by missile.

This was probably one of those rival Intelligence Agency incidents you see in movies and tv, but can never be reported as such in real life.
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