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and its history brutalizing north American Indians.

From the 1800's to the 1970's.

Quotes from the old testement were used for psychological abuse. - NOT CHRISTIAN.

It was so widespread that lawyers in my city of Regina Canada would go door to door handing out flyers looking to represent abused native peoples.

Check this shit out

http://www.operationmorningstar.org/Cath...anada.html

In other words - EY you are way off and in my opinion are spreading disinfo.
I've never considered the old testament to be 'Christian' or in line w/ the teachings of Jesus.

Two different things.

That doesn't mean there are some great pieces of wisdom and knowledge embedded in it.

It just means that, as a whole, it is contrary to the New Testament.
Of course, the Dean. My point was they claim they spread the word of Jesus, but that is a lie. Sure the entire BIBLE does have good stuff in it, but the RCC does a spin job of how its presented.
My beef is with the RCC not the bible.

The priest who married my parents was charged with molesting his alter boys. My parents were disgusted.
Well, I stay out of this...it's not my specialty.

This subject is like a hot stove and I have friends on both sides of the issue.

Maybe EY and/or Fugazi will be along to discuss this with you.

You guys all have a little different take on the RCC.
I feel strongly about this because I was raised Catholic. I know first hand what is going on. I've talked to native people and heard thier stories.

This just didn't happen since the 60's is my point - something EY insists on.

The new testament is quite brilliant actually when you spend time with it. It is kicking the shit out of me . IT WILL MAKE YOU QUESTION THE TYPE OF WORK YOU DO. Most people are not brave enough to quite thier line of work that is part of an industry that hurts people instead of helping them.

Just one example from new testament - Work in banking?(an industry that makes money off of money) OUCH. You are only helping yourself by getting a paycheck, but in the larger picture are working to keep people down as debt slaves.
thanks for you opinions Ihit.

we are open to all ideas.

I will respond soon
Quote:In other words - EY you are way off and in my opinion are spreading disinfo.

I'm basically repeating what historians agree on.

If we are here to talk about illuminism or some masonic conspiracy, it's helpful to know who their enemy was. That enemy was the RCC. this is not disinfo.

Yes the catholic church has engaged in evil, so has every other religion. The protestant religion today along with zionism are responsible for many of the illegal wars in the middle east.

also the Catholic Church is not a monolith, many of their organizations like the jesuits have actually been undermining Rome at certain points.

Many times the popes tried to fight against the inquistions but were forced by various kings to back them.
(04-19-2013 12:00 AM)THE_DEAN Wrote: [ -> ]Well, I stay out of this...it's not my specialty.

This subject is like a hot stove and I have friends on both sides of the issue.

Maybe EY and/or Fugazi will be along to discuss this with you.

You guys all have a little different take on the RCC.

To me this is the biggest incongruency in all of this research.

The RCC has traditionally been against the NWO.

however the protestants have a theological problem with them.

Also yes , since the RCC was basically the "government" hundreds of years ago all across europe, of course every crime or war could be attributed to them. but that is a simplistic view.

People really need to read the basic materials of illuminism/masonry etc. It's very clear, the bulk of the conspiracy is against the RCC.
(04-19-2013 06:30 AM)EVILYOSHIDA Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:In other words - EY you are way off and in my opinion are spreading disinfo.

Yes the catholic church has engaged in evil, so has every other religion. The protestant religion today along with zionism are responsible for many of the illegal wars in the middle east.

Please EY, don't collectively lump Protestantism with Zionism.

I myself as a bible believer, am a protestor of the RCC and also a staunch opponent of Zionism.

Call it mainstream christianity, Zionist Christianity or even evangelicalism,
But don't paint all Christians who oppose the RCC as Zionists.
^ yes, I should have used the term evangelical. I know there are a lot of good protestants out there, there are good jews too. but we just have to admit that the protestant evangelicals are the largest support base of zionism.
what protestantism did, IMO, was to divide the church into thousands of little splinter cells.

It weakened Christianity.

I know a lot of protestants are some of the biggest opponents of this so-called "new world order" as well.. however they really need to get closer with the "main church"

the RCC and Protestantism are A LOT CLOSER to each other than godless world socialism.
this is from your own link bro.

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it didn't single out the RCC, it was both churches.
also feel free to call me out if you think i'm wrong or spreading disinfo. I'm interested in the truth.

I have no affiliation with the RCC. I basically went to the source materials and found out nearly all the conspirators wanted to take the RCC down.

also it must be noted that Adam Weishaupt was a great admirerer of Luther.
Quote:I feel strongly about this because I was raised Catholic. I know first hand what is going on. I've talked to native people and heard thier stories.

This just didn't happen since the 60's is my point - something EY insists on.

the catholic Church after Vatican 2 is very very diff. from the pre vatican 2 church. yes. pedo stuff happened before that, but it was nowhere near epidemic levels until after vatican 2.

when you have 1 billion members stuff is going to happen just by simple statistics. today the RCC has one of the lowest rates of institutional pedophilia. 100x lower than the public school system.
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